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    Narrow body racer

    Hello,

    Could anyone of tell me if there has been any narrow body race 911 in the 70s? The 911R was the 911 60s racer and narrow body...Were all 70s 911 racers wide boby (2.3st/2.5st/2.7rs/rsr)?

    I am planning to rebuild my 911 72s as a sport/race car but I do not want to transform the body... Looking for some inspiration.

    Thanks a lot.

    A.

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    Watch McQueen's Le Mans. Most racing footage is genuine footage from the 1970 race. There are a couple ST's featured, but there are many privateer, narrow body 911's racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatinais View Post
    I am planning to rebuild my 911 72s as a sport/race car....... Looking for some inspiration.
    Try finding details of the 911 GTS somewhere on this board(?)......

    .....certainly worked for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren65 View Post
    Try finding details of the 911 GTS somewhere on this board(?)......

    .....certainly worked for me!
    70's GTS???!!

    Never heard of it.

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    The GTS's were 1969 cars. Very special, very rare.
    However if you are talking about a 1972S the ideal one to reference is the 1972 so called "2.2 ST prototype" 9112300013 shown below that was originally a factory test car but later was a Group 3 rally car for Gaban in Belgium as the period pictures below shows
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    more information can be found on line as it has been for sale a couple of times in the past decade, the last time at Bonhams UK in 2015 where they provided the following history:

    " This 911S Coupé prototype was built 'for factory use' in July 1971 (production number '1020004') intended for homologation for the forthcoming 2.4-litre model. It was constructed using a 911T bodyshell with no undercoat and no sound proofing, while anchor points were incorporated for race harnesses. The car was fitted with a standard interior and painted Gulf Orange. Its engine was the new 2.4-litre 911/53 unit to 'S' specification, number '6320023', which was coupled to the new 915/12 gearbox (see AFN Heritage correspondence on file).

    This was a 'base car' used to homologate the 1972 street model, and was sent to Schinznach in Switzerland for Swiss TüV homologation reference, after which it was returned to the Porsche Competitions Department in December 1971 to serve as a test and development 'mule'. There it was tested with various 2.7 RS components, a lightweight interior and sports seats, and was used to run a twin-plug motor. The car was road registered in March 1972.

    In June 1973 this 911S prototype was sold by the Competitions Department to David Yorke, previous manager of the Lotus Formula 1 team, who at the time was manager of the John Wyer Porsche, Gulf Oil-sponsored endurance racing programme. In October 1973 the car was imported into Belgium by the former coachbuilders D'Ieteren Frères, as evidenced by the Certificate of Conformity on file, and in April 1974 was registered by Andre Herck (as 'AJN 321') for use in Group 3 events. In February 1976 the Porsche was registered in Belgium as 'ADK 075' by the Belgian racing driver Jean-Pierre Gaban. Later that year it contested the Bianchi Rally and the Ypres 24 Hours Rally, being driven by Magalhaes/Erculis to a 6th place finish in the latter event behind the winning Opel Kadett of Walter Röhrl. Gaban continued to enter the Porsche in Group 3 rallies throughout the 1970s. Period photographs showing the Porsche in competition are on file together with results sheets."


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    Quote Originally Posted by HughH View Post
    The GTS's were 1969 cars. Very special, very rare.
    However if you are talking about a 1972S the ideal one to reference is the 1972 so called "2.2 ST prototype" 9112300013 shown below that was originally a factory test car but later was a Group 3 rally car for Gaban in Belgium as the period pictures below shows
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    more information can be found on line as it has been for sale a couple of times in the past decade, the last time at Bonhams UK in 2015 where they provided the following history:

    " This 911S Coupé prototype was built 'for factory use' in July 1971 (production number '1020004') intended for homologation for the forthcoming 2.4-litre model. It was constructed using a 911T bodyshell with no undercoat and no sound proofing, while anchor points were incorporated for race harnesses. The car was fitted with a standard interior and painted Gulf Orange. Its engine was the new 2.4-litre 911/53 unit to 'S' specification, number '6320023', which was coupled to the new 915/12 gearbox (see AFN Heritage correspondence on file).

    This was a 'base car' used to homologate the 1972 street model, and was sent to Schinznach in Switzerland for Swiss TüV homologation reference, after which it was returned to the Porsche Competitions Department in December 1971 to serve as a test and development 'mule'. There it was tested with various 2.7 RS components, a lightweight interior and sports seats, and was used to run a twin-plug motor. The car was road registered in March 1972.

    In June 1973 this 911S prototype was sold by the Competitions Department to David Yorke, previous manager of the Lotus Formula 1 team, who at the time was manager of the John Wyer Porsche, Gulf Oil-sponsored endurance racing programme. In October 1973 the car was imported into Belgium by the former coachbuilders D'Ieteren Frères, as evidenced by the Certificate of Conformity on file, and in April 1974 was registered by Andre Herck (as 'AJN 321') for use in Group 3 events. In February 1976 the Porsche was registered in Belgium as 'ADK 075' by the Belgian racing driver Jean-Pierre Gaban. Later that year it contested the Bianchi Rally and the Ypres 24 Hours Rally, being driven by Magalhaes/Erculis to a 6th place finish in the latter event behind the winning Opel Kadett of Walter Röhrl. Gaban continued to enter the Porsche in Group 3 rallies throughout the 1970s. Period photographs showing the Porsche in competition are on file together with results sheets."


    Thanks a lot. Very interesting.

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    inspiration, my 2.2 E based racer, photos by Matt Hart Photography
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    1973 2.4E Coupe ex Hong Kong ex Norfolk Island ex New Zealand now in Oz
    (Autowerks restored stunner)
    http://www.autowerks.com.au/porsche_projects/index.html

    1972 2.4E Targa ex Germany ex Japan now in Oz
    (another Autowerks project)

    1969 built E based Vintage Racer
    (another Autowerks beauty)
    http://s12.photobucket.com/?postlogin=true

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    Beautiful and inspiring indeed....

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