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Thread: Putting AC in a non-AC car?

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    Putting AC in a non-AC car?

    Has anyone had luck putting AC in a non-AC
    car. It's so hot and humid here today. If you
    had a good outcome please tell me what you
    did.
    Don Hopkins
    1970 911T

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    Hi Don,
    There is a thread on Pelican right now about an electric A/C system being tested. Might be worth watching how it develops.

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    Don,

    Drive the car early in the day when you want to take it out....and then wait until fall...no AC needed. Get a modern car if you absolutely need to do a lot of driving during the heat of the day.

    Just sayin'.....
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    Senior Member Orbit's Avatar
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    I agree with Don, a useable A/C system for a 1970 911 T makes good sense where I live in South Florida. I am in the beginnings of the same project with an identical car. We have decided to use a dash from a later model 911 with the bigger center dash vent outlets. From 1987-1993, the dash drops right in, now we have to make the duct work to the center dash vents. The 1970 Couple we have never had air so everything is from ground zero.
    So Far I have heard about:
    RennAire
    Griffiths
    Scotts Independent
    Retroair

    The car we are building is an "outlaw" so we are not worried about how the car rolled off the assembly line. This is a case of "Form follows Function". We want a lot of cold air blowing in our face ... just like my Grandma's old Cadillac.
    Last edited by Orbit; 07-17-2016 at 04:23 PM. Reason: bad speling... bad, bad, speling

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmy2 View Post
    Hi Don,
    There is a thread on Pelican right now about an electric A/C system being tested. Might be worth watching how it develops.
    Could someone point me to this?

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    Just went to the Pelican site to investigate the electric AC situation. Jonny Hart/Classic Retrofit does not quite have it together just yet. The video on Pelican/YouTube is like a bad 70's porno and I seem to remember a joke about why the British drink warm beer ( No offense against our proper English friends). Nothing on their website about the A/C system. I think I know what Frank Beck would say about this - Frank needs to be the Beta Tester on this one !

    I think I will move forward with a more traditional approach, or at least with a vendor with some track history and an actual product to sell.

    Frank - this opportunity is all yours !!!

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    40 AMP draw is pretty serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbit View Post

    Scotts Independent
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    I had Scotts Independent install a modern AC system in my '70 S. It did Not come from the factory with AC...Everything installed was new, except the AC vents were from Ebay...
    I can not imagine not having it. Worth every penny.
    Looks just like the factory or dealer add on, except for the modern compressor.


    If you are purchasing the AC vents, try to purchase the dash knee pads too. You notice the difference when you mix and match in the fit.
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    I built a system for a 1972 T without original air. The owner lives on the Palm Islands in Dubai where you can see temps up to 130 degrees. I was able to get vent temps in the low 40 degree range and the owner said the system worked good upon arrival in UAE. This system did not put out near the quality of a modern car of course but it keeps the occupants from suffering.

    I used Griffiths components and liked their stuff, especially the large fan motor and control unit so you can get much more air volume and precise control of the speed.

    On a rear engine Porsche there are troubles because of airflow. You have to think thermal efficiency so every part you install, ducting must be well installed, quality of every component is important if you want it to work. 3 or 4 condensers or even more if you want to go all out will get the best efficiently. Front condensers would get the most heat transfer bScotts Porsche put one very large condenser on the bottom of the pan as big as 3or 4 separate units, but if you ever bump the bottom of the car on a lumpy road then your system can be compromised with one bad bump.

    Every system needs some thought put into it.

    This is old and not updated but it helps people understand what is involved:

    http://vintageexcellence.com/Air_Con...ng_Project.php
    Last edited by VintageExcellen; 07-18-2016 at 03:38 AM.

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