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    Tangerine Paint Formulation

    I am starting the process to get ready to paint my 72 project car. The original color is Tangerine.

    Here is the problem. Many recent builds have had cars repainted tangerine but the formula does not look right. The color appears darker, like it has too much black tint. They do not "Pop" in color like original paint cars do. I have observed this in pictures, in person and with single stage and Base/Clear formulations.

    I realize that the pigments have changed due to environmental concerns but is there a line of paint that actually matches in color? Or, Does anyone have an adjusted color tint formulation that will have more orange or yellow?

    Thanks for any insight.

    jamie
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    Jamie

    My 72 was recently painted in its original tangerine color. We (Scott Longballa) used Glasurir 22 line Urethane Acrylic paint. Obviously, a single stage paint. While I have not had the car out in public yet to compare to others, the paint is very bright. All I have are iPhone pics of the car which I'm happy to share. You can also call Scott and dis uss the merits of the 22 line Glasurit. I'm very happy with the result.

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    Glasurit 22 line is the correct paint. Mine is in the booth as we speak. The key to the pop that you're seeking is the white sealer coat that goes down before the tangerine is applied. Think of the tangerine paint as a piece of orange cellophane that is laid over a bright white paint. If you lay that cellophane over a grey paint, it won't look nearly as bright. An experienced 22 line painter will know this base coat must go down first.
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    Just had my original Tangerine 914-6 repainted last year and we left the rear outside shelf in front of the engine lid in original paint, it matches perfectly. I will post info on the paint and process used, pretty sure it was a PPG product we used.
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    It was Harvey Weidman (on this forum) who reminded me that certain colors require specific color primers. He spoke of how years ago there was a lot of trouble trying to match paint and was often solved by using the correct primer color.
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    I just dropped my Tangerine off a week ago for the respray so very interested to what you report back Mike. The guy that has my car typically uses PPG.. back when I asked around about this same topic several people said that its best to let shops use the paint & process that they are most accustomed to using.. my painter typically uses PPG, but he is open to products/number of stages, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogLeg View Post
    I just dropped my Tangerine off a week ago for the respray so very interested to what you report back Mike. The guy that has my car typically uses PPG.. back when I asked around about this same topic several people said that its best to let shops use the paint & process that they are most accustomed to using.. my painter typically uses PPG, but he is open to products/number of stages, etc.
    Ok, here is what my painter used on my 914-6, he has 40 years in the business. If your guy needs to talk to my painter it can be arranged.

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    Here is my car: http://www.brucesweetman.com/Clients...tton/n-2BsXJd/
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    Thanks Guys. I was planning a white coat under the Tangerine. To me that is standard for any light or bright color. Years ago I painted a car with Linen Gray (964 color). We tested white, gray and tan sealer layers and the color looked very different between the three.

    I do have a local supplier for BASF/Glasurit. Will have to call and see what I can get my hands on.
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    Jamie,
    It really depends on what your personal preference and beliefs are. PPG and others will produce just as nice and correct color, and are great products. If you're not a purist per say, and only concerned with looks, ease of use, and expense control, then there are many great choices. If you are restoring the car to a very high level, and want the absolute best products, and the true correct paint style that was used originally, then Glasurit 22 line is the way to go, but hang on for major $ticker $hock!!!
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    Yes. I know. I priced 22 line two years ago and it was almost $1000/gallon. I estimate 2.5 gallons to paint the full tub; interior, exterior and underneath.

    Honestly, this build is 100% a driver and I will likely choose another paint line. I am more concerned with the color. I want the "orange glow" that tangerine can give in certain light conditions. I was just probing to see about a change in color formulation to give this as it is really easy to see when it is not right.

    I will probably shoot a few test panels to see. A test can of paint is inexpensive in the grand scheme of things.
    1971 911T SWT - Sun and Fun Machine
    1972 911T - "Minne" painted and undergoing assembly.

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