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    Quote Originally Posted by 210bhp View Post
    Steve

    H1’s arrived in the UK on 68MY 911 ‘S’ models I think.

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    Thanks Mike, so if I offer it Ill assume the one I have is correct spec from the very earliest RHD 911 in May 65 through until that supercession for H1 68S even though date code points to item being a 65 model year item.

    H1 and H4 are familiar descriptors is there an accepted term for these or are these simply known as Bosch 7045/4487 based on the lens number

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    John,
    I will need to check the Hellas tomorrow for you (almost midnight here just now).

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    Steve

    I think Bosch headlights for swb cars is all I’ve seen them described as but the information ‘7045’ is of course vital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 911MRP View Post
    Search using Bosch 7045 found this very old thread, adding to it as it provides some context to my question about this lens and housing with the markings and stickers per photos:
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    Question: Exactly what model years were these 7045 lens and housing with the ( unclear) pictured long Bosch part number used on a RHD 911?

    The three digit on label if a Bosch manufacturing code is a bit grubby but looks like 502 which would be Feb 65 — if so consistent with early 911. I’m no expert on earliest 911 but wasn’t first RHD 911 delivered in U.K. was in May 65?

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    Steve
    Hi Steve,
    From the period Bosch parts list for MY65 thru MY68 911:

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    1969 S Coupe #761
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    Thanks for the Bosch documents I assume the second image is the RHD version of the asymmetrical lamp and its parts list which tallies with the yellow sticker on my example ( maybe the LHD and RHD some parts are the same) . Let me double check the sticker in daylight and digest information in the morning as quite late here in U.K. now)

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    Not really my era of interest but having investigated this morning found these among my old Porsche and Bosch paperwork regarding the SWB RHD asymmetric headlight:

    Part for Countries with left traffic ie RHD in my paper spare parts catalogue December 1964


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    Glass entry in catalogue specifically mentions 7045 and E1 marking on the lens:

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    This excerpt from my Porsche to Bosch part number interchange reference as produced by Bosch ltd in the U.K. in sixties cross references to yellow sticker on my item (502 Date code from Feb 1965) and the product number marks on the glass tally:
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    Further corroborates what Mike and others explained, it seems to be a SWB lamp “asymmetric” made Feb 1965. Porsche part 901.631.101.01 or Bosch 0 301 800 505. Visible 7045 and arrow marked on glass lens for RHD. Dating from around the time of the first RHD 911 that first arrived in U.K. in May 1965. Don’t know how many of earliest 911 were RHD that needed this rare 7045 glass and other things correct for RHD but I expect not many cars were delivered to U.K. Aus SA etc 65 to the change for 68? Historians will know.

    Distinctive shape and fluting for some substituting the H4 that arrived in ROW and U.K. around March 72 just wont do if correctness to factory original spec matters.

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    Some owners might seek originality with patina to match a one they already have or as a rare spare; it is candidate for an Audette restoration for folks who like such rarities as good or maybe even better than new.

    Thanks to all for input to my question! Not sure why I keep these old papers and parts from era nearly a decade before my 911 so having now established what it is I might offer for sale (or trade) in appropriate section as there might be a better home for stuff like this than me.

    Appreciate the knowledgable helpful input to my question.

    Cheers
    Steve
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    That’s interesting documentation Steve. The illustration shows the headlight glass with the oval centre prism (a lens I’ve often seen on a Rhd swb including Lyvvie at one time) which I had always been led to believe was a 356 lens and was superseded by the 7045 lens for the beginning of the 901 series. They both had the same profile and fitted the same early chrome rim. Others with very early 911’s might wish to confirm or correct this.

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    Hi Mike

    I have two paper Spare Parts Catalogues for 65 onwards both nominally dated 1964 but with some page updates.

    This second one (Below) is in maroon ring binder whereas the other in prior post is one of the catalogue paperbacks

    The illustration below seems the same as other catalogue — note the edition / revision in the bottom is 11/66 — so model year 67. Not sure if the updated version of light illustration on this page is significant for reference on this discussion; maybe artistic licence? I assume there was an earlier version of this plate in catalogue before this particular page got superseded and marked v11/66.

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    Maybe someone on forum has the original parts catalog illustration from the very first edition before this page update. I suspect something must’ve changed on the illustration to need a dated version in footnotes.

    What is clear from post #17 is 7045 E1 for left hand traffic (RHD) is mentioned in the text also my example sticker has the correct Bosch part number with code 502 which is presumably a feb 65 manufacturing date so evidently reflector was that era.

    As said this is not my era of interest just happen to have some old documents gathering dust along with the light.

    Steve
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    What is even more confusing with that illustration is the hella 128 lights shown the wrong way up, with the water drain at the top (!) and the fixing bracket in the 356 position rather than the 911 position. I’m thinking this is new text with illustration lifted from a previous edition with the addition of 911 indicators. Possibly.

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