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    Standard and Special Colors for late 64 until May 65 901/911 ?

    I recently had an interesting conversation with 1965 MY owners. While its universially accepted that Modelyear 1966 had, among others, Bahama Yellow and Sand Beige as Standard Colors and among others, Champagne Yellow as Special Color, some sources say this does not apply for 1964/1965 cars.
    For those 64/65 MY cars, other colors were Standard Colors: Sky blue, Champagne Yellow, Ruby Red etc. These are basicially 356C colors.

    Digging into my period literature collection including Christophorus from 1963 onwards, couldnt find proof of it. The earlist known Colorchart for 911/912, dated 5.65 shows the Standard Colors for 1965 as for 1966 Modelyear.

    Yet, both Peter Morgan, Patrick Paternie and also 912 registry give another info.
    So:
    Where is period proof that in 1964 and 1965 (up to May 1965), Standard Colors differed than for the 1966 Model Years ?
    And that colors for the 356C were carried over into 901/911 models ?
    Thx
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    The actual paint plates attached to the car bodies? The same paint codes were stamped on plates for 1964 & 1965 356 as well as 1965 911 & 1965 912 models up to nearly the end of July invoice dates with some exceptions. These are the 64xx codes that I am referring to. However there are some other 3 digit and 5 digit (Lesonal) codes used in this period, as well as other earlier codes.
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    The obvious source is Dr. Brett Johnson's The 911 & 912 Porsche, a Restorer's Guide to Authenticity. According to it, the exterior colors available in 1965 were:

    • 6401 Slate Gray
    • 6402 Ruby Red
    • 6403 Sky Blue
    • 6404 Light Ivory
    • 6405 Champagne Yellow
    • 6406 Irish Green
    • 6407 Signal Red
    • 6410 Dolphin Grey
    • 6411 Togo Brown
    • 6412 Bali Blue
    • 6413 Black


    My car, 301382, and Jacques 301379 are both 6405 Champagne Yellow.

    Also, it's pretty clear that the first two digits of these color codes are the year this set of colors was introduced. 66xx color codes wouldn't have been used in 1965.

    davep has records showing a few cars with 64xx color codes after July 1965 and a handful with 66xx color codes before July 1966.
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    There is an early colour chart that I have seen before for the 65 model year 911 and 912s that shows all of the *64 colour codes and indicates which of these were "Special Colours". This is a rare item and it confirms Dr. Brett Johnsons account in his book. I have pictures of the colour chart and if I can find them I will post them. My car is 912 #451403 and it has Bali Blue, special colour paint, 6412.

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    Oh, and I downloaded this somewhere along the line. It has 64xx color codes:


    It also shows a green interior choice--I've seen photos of at least one car with a green interior.
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    I looked through my brochures and found this brochure. It's printed in the USA and, hence undated but clearly shows the interiors of 1965 cars (knee pad does not wrap around, small brass ignition bezel in the 911 and painted 3 dial dash in the 912):

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    The car on the back cover looks like it's 6403 Sky Blue, not the later 6603 Gulf Blue.
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    Thanks for sharing this Jim!!

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    My 65 car is golf blue not gulf
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    I've always thought this was a useful resource...

    http://www.912registry.org/content.a...dule_id=186808
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    Quote Originally Posted by 72targa View Post
    I've always thought this was a useful resource...

    http://www.912registry.org/content.a...dule_id=186808
    You can download the source for that from Porsche http://www.porsche.com/international...ourcharts911f/ although Porsche didn't put a lot of work into making a high-quality scan.

    911 F (1965-67) - Booklet colour and equipment samples (PDF; 1,4 MB) is the brochure Karim referred to at the beginning of this thread.
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