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Thread: Standard and Special Colors for late 64 until May 65 901/911 ?

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    These are the photos I've found online that I believe to capture the range of Enamel Blue. I also posted the formula I found on Glassurit which is the same for 6403 and 314

    The first two photos look like overcast days and the later two sunny. The color changes a lot - this is familiar from my Alfa which I painted Bluette which can range from nearly navy dark blue to quite intense bluegreen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r-mm View Post
    These are the photos I've found online that I believe to capture the range of Enamel Blue. I also posted the formula I found on Glassurit which is the same for 6403 and 314

    The first two photos look like overcast days and the later two sunny. The color changes a lot - this is familiar from my Alfa which I painted Bluette which can range from nearly navy dark blue to quite intense bluegreen.
    I recognize the second photo: it's from an early Porsche of America brochure.

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    Porsche of America brochures weren't dated like those printed in Germany but this brochure clearly shows early model year 1965 cars (including a painted-dash 912) so it's probably as good a rendition as you're likely to find.
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    sky blue and else early colors recipies
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    63 650 gray silver bikinitub triumph thunderbird
    70 650 astralred silver triumph bonneville
    65 912 slate gray "erwin"
    73 914 ravennagreen "ferdl"
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    Quote Originally Posted by r-mm View Post
    Hello all

    Reviving this informative old thread to ask if anyone knows if there was a distinction between the colors painted on the 'painted dash' early 1965 912 vs later 1965 cars? My instinct tells me the answer is no, the color was by year and the shift from painted to non painted dash was not viewed as a model change. Can anyone comment?
    there are extensive discussions over at the 912bbs concluding with the assumption, that painted dash cars had been produced up to august 65.

    I tend to say all of these cars had been painted according to the 64** color chart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeunElf View Post
    The obvious source is Dr. Brett Johnson's The 911 & 912 Porsche, a Restorer's Guide to Authenticity. According to it, the exterior colors available in 1965 were:

    • 6401 Slate Gray
    • 6402 Ruby Red
    • 6403 Sky Blue
    • 6404 Light Ivory
    • 6405 Champagne Yellow
    • 6406 Irish Green
    • 6407 Signal Red
    • 6410 Dolphin Grey
    • 6411 Togo Brown
    • 6412 Bali Blue
    • 6413 Black


    My car, 301382, and Jacques 301379 are both 6405 Champagne Yellow.

    Also, it's pretty clear that the first two digits of these color codes are the year this set of colors was introduced. 66xx color codes wouldn't have been used in 1965.

    davep has records showing a few cars with 64xx color codes after July 1965 and a handful with 66xx color codes before July 1966.
    Hi Jim, I came across this old post. The color code on my kardex for the 300700 is attached. This does not correspond to yr list.Name:  colorcode 300700.PNG
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    member 2971 Jacques
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    Same in yr post 63 Haul, also there 6406 is shown as Irish Green......weird.....
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    seems like my 300700 kardex is the only datapoint showing that 6406 is Signal Rot
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    jacques,

    there seems to be a typo error on your kardex.
    I did check up again the color chart and all the official
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    6407 signal red

    I ll send you the pics of the correct color chart for the 64**
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    I agree, 6406 is Irish green, which begs the question: Jacques, is your car actually 6406 Irish Green or 6407 Signal Red? Definitely a typo. I should have caught that back 8 years ago when I supplied that Kardex.
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    I've seen worse Kardexes, like for my 356A. It supposedly came with a "Blaupunkt radio typ Europa."

    I have some more color information. I moved a little over a year ago and unearthed some Xerox copies Porsche Classic sent me back around 1997.

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    6407 = signalrot.
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