Standard and Special Colors for late 64 until May 65 901/911 ?

[72targa]

You can download the source for that from Porsche http://www.porsche.com/international...ourcharts911f/ although Porsche didn't put a lot of work into making a high-quality scan.

911 F (1965-67) - Booklet colour and equipment samples (PDF; 1,4 MB) is the brochure Karim referred to at the beginning of this thread.

Cool! I still think the 912 Registry site is a bit more useful...

[davep]

According to it, the exterior colors available in 1965 were:

• 6401 Slate Gray
• 6402 Ruby Red
• 6403 Sky Blue
• 6404 Light Ivory
• 6405 Champagne Yellow
• 6406 Irish Green
• 6407 Signal Red
• 6410 Dolphin Grey
• 6411 Togo Brown
• 6412 Bali Blue
• 6413 Black

I also know of 6420 & 6421

[Milou]

Agree with Karim, I can't seem to find a 911 color brochure in 1964/65 with number codes 64XX, only a 1964 356 colour chart, where champagne yellow is listed under special color. Could dealers have used this brochure for the 911?

[911T1971]

Thx, interesting discussion.

I know most above and as many know, i pretty much own all literature and color charts ever produced.
I also own one of the earlist pricelist (RoW: 1/65 and also US: 12/64) ever produced but those lists do not list specific color code available. And of course I have Johnsons book as well and dozens of other books, including Millers literature book.
I also checked the 912registry..but where are the period sources they refer too ?

Paint plates of original cars are a good indicator, i agree.
And I agree with Milou, the 64/65 colors are similar to the paints for 356C models.
The earlist Colorchart specificially for 911/912 ever issued is probably from May 1965 and which I have.

But so far nobody has proof with a period document showing that both the 901', the 232 in 64 produced 911' as well as all 911 produced up to May 1965 had a color choice similar to the outgoing Porsche 356C model.
I would love to see it because uber rare and never documented before.
Does member MichaellM912 has it?

So:
-We all agree of the info but cant show period proof. We only relate what other list but nobody (me included) can show where those unique 911 colors for late 64 and early 1965 cars are listed in the first place ?
Color plates w 64xx, as Dave said, are the only indicator whatsoever.

-Did the factory tell dealers "for clients wanting to choose the color of their new 911 , just use the 356C color chart, instead." ?
Therefore, they showed clients no new color chart but handed them over an old 356C one?

Would love to see otherwise that 901/911 document, maybe it does exists but imho never shown anywhere neither published or listed in any book or site.

[Milou]

The use of the 356 color chart would explain why on my original invoice of the 1965 911, champagne yellow is described as special color.

[NeunElf]

Thx, interesting discussion.

I know most above and as many know, i pretty much own all literature and color charts ever produced.
I also own one of the earlist pricelist (RoW: 1/65 and also US: 12/64) ever produced but those lists do not list specific color code available. And of course I have Johnsons book as well and dozens of other books, including Millers literature book.
I also checked the 912registry..but where are the period sources they refer too ?

Paint plates of original cars are a good indicator, i agree.
And I agree with Milou, the 64/65 colors are similar to the paints for 356C models.
The earlist Colorchart specificially for 911/912 ever issued is probably from May 1965 and which I have.

But so far nobody has proof with a period document showing that both the 901', the 232 in 64 produced 911' as well as all 911 produced up to May 1965 had a color choice similar to the outgoing Porsche 356C model.
I would love to see it because uber rare and never documented before.
Does member MichaellM912 has it?

So:
-We all agree of the info but cant show period proof. We only relate what other list but nobody (me included) can show where those unique 911 colors for late 64 and early 1965 cars are listed in the first place ?
Color plates w 64xx, as Dave said, are the only indicator whatsoever.

-Did the factory tell dealers "for clients wanting to choose the color of their new 911 , just use the 356C color chart, instead." ?
Therefore, they showed clients no new color chart but handed them over an old 356C one?

Would love to see otherwise that 901/911 document, maybe it does exists but imho never shown anywhere neither published or listed in any book or site.

Did you see the Auto-Foreign price list for very early grey market 911s and 912s? It has exactly the colors of the 356C color chart Miliou just posted, including grey and green interiors.

The first attempt only put up a link, here's another try:

Attachment 414631

I guess this was Eric Linden's [soterik's] father.

[911T1971]

perfect Jim.
What is special that it lists both 911 and 912.

Is there a Color Chart for those 911 colors ?
Or, they just gave out 356C ones ??

[911T1971]

Here would be the later 1965 Color Chart, still valid for 911 and 912.
Dated 5.65, listing both 911 and 912.
Either for MY 65 or then for MY 66.



US importer sheet, dated "1965", listing both 911 and 912. Note the "Exterior Colors".


Probably first pricelist ever (?) for both 911 and 912, dated 4.65
The 912 was introduced in Spring 1965.


Probably first US pricelist ever (?), for 911 only, paper is dated in 12.64/printed probably January 1965.
Note it says "Temporary" Accessory List.
It lists the prices for "Standard, Special Colors" and "Special Colors not stated in our list".

[davep]

My humble opinion is that the 356C color chart was used for the 911 & 912. The number of cars to be built was small, and there was no pressing need to add or change colors at the time. Porsche was already thinking ahead to the 1966 model year, and told the dealers to consider the early 911 & 912 as an early introduction to the 1966 model year.
The only "error" that I see in the Auto Foreign price list is the interior codes; the C brown, D beige, F blue, G green & K fawn are the codes used on the 1965 Kardex for 911 & 912; I guess that these did not carry over from the 356C.

[911T1971]

Thx Dave, makes sense. But i also need to say that even the factory had a few bugs to solve during the introduction, in their papers they always made shure the 901/911 was not a 356C. Maybe the only hint were pricelists and dealer circular papers, maybe there also exists a specific color chart or upholstery set for 1965 901/911.