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    Water World . . .

    . . . 'cause 'climate change' --- well . . . you know . . .
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    Regardless of your politics or the science or anyone's 'opinions' . . .


    . . . the world is changing

    It's not just getting warmer, Citizens. It's also getting 'wetter' --- as in more water . . .


    . . . = something else to look forward to . . .





    '. . . Climate change is causing sea level rise around the world. According to a recent study, in the year 2100, two billion people - about one-fifth of the world's population - could become climate change refugees due to rising ocean levels.

    Those who once lived on coastlines will face displacement and resettlement bottlenecks as they seek habitable places inland, according to Cornell University research.

    "We're going to have more people on less land and sooner that we think," said lead author Charles Geisler, professor emeritus of development sociology at Cornell.

    "The future rise in global mean sea level probably won't be gradual. Yet few policy makers are taking stock of the significant barriers to entry that coastal climate refugees, like other refugees, will encounter when they migrate to higher ground."

    Earth's escalating population is expected to top nine billion people by 2050 and climb to 11 billion people by 2100, according to a United Nations report.

    Feeding that population will require more arable land even as swelling oceans consume fertile coastal zones and river deltas, driving people to seek new places to dwell.

    By 2060, about 1.4 billion people could be climate change refugees, according to the paper. Geisler extrapolated that number to two billion by 2100.

    "The colliding forces of human fertility, submerging coastal zones, residential retreat, and impediments to inland resettlement is a huge problem. We offer preliminary estimates of the lands unlikely to support new waves of climate refugees due to the residues of war, exhausted natural resources, declining net primary productivity, desertification, urban sprawl, land concentration, 'paving the planet' with roads and greenhouse gas storage zones offsetting permafrost melt," Geisler said.

    The paper describes tangible solutions and proactive adaptations in places like Florida and China, which coordinate coastal and interior land-use policies in anticipation of weather-induced population shifts.

    Florida has the second-longest coastline in the United States, and its state and local officials have planned for a coastal exodus, Geisler said, in the state's Comprehensive Planning Act.

    Beyond sea level rise, low-elevation coastal zones in many countries face intensifying storm surges that will push sea water further inland. Historically, humans have spent considerable effort reclaiming land from oceans, but now live with the opposite - the oceans reclaiming terrestrial spaces on the planet," said Geisler. In their research, Geisler and Currens explore a worst-case scenario for the present century.

    The authors note that the competition of reduced space that they foresee will induce land-use trade-offs and conflicts. In the United States and elsewhere, this could mean selling off public lands for human settlement.

    "The pressure is on us to contain greenhouse gas emissions at present levels. It's the best 'future proofing' against climate change, sea level rise and the catastrophic consequences likely to play out on coasts, as well as inland in the future," said Geisler . . .
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    http://www.business-standard.com/art...2700155_1.html



    Europe's packed. And no one moves to China. Scotch Africa. Oz 's a bit remote, sooooo . . . .




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    Just read an article in the NYT that Carbon levels are increasing at a faster rate than predicted, as the "carbon sponges" our oceans and forests, can no longer keep up.
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    I'm Goin' ---- to Disneyland

    I'm no scientist

    Like a lotta people --- watching dueling 'experts' argue over interpreting data + its significance . . . doesn't make the Cause any clearer . . .


    . . . but the Consequences? . . .


    . . . boggle



    Forget the climate

    When people find themselves in a place they don't want to be? . . .



    . . . they move



    Think about that

    A billion people . . .



    . . . moving


    Where they gonna go?



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    The effort required to get 192 countries to sign on was immense. Disappointing that the second largest emitter has pulled out of a voluntary agreement. Good to see that many states and municipalities, including Pittsburgh, PA. are going to join.
    There are 50,000 workers total in the coal industry vs. 500,000 in the solar industry, I don't understand the rationale to ignore the future, but I don't understand much of what is being promulgated by the current US administration.
    Although there will be solar panels on the "Wall" !
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    Yes please!

    Bring it.

    More water sounds nice.






    This candy ass, Chicken Little stuff gets


    So Old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Beck View Post
    Yes please!

    Bring it.


    More water sounds nice.
    Only in AZ. If you're in Coastal Florida, Georgia, the Carolina's or NY it's going to be devastating. The loss of property will be in the 100's of billions over the next 50 years.
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    Getting 290 countries to sign was an impossibility. There are only 195 countries on this little blue planet of which only 3 did not sign the PA.
    Nicaragua Syria and now the US. It is not "good" it is fantastic to see many of the States and municipalities wanting to "go it" alone and join. Even as individuals we can make a difference,, 30 years ago the brought in "recycling" and we all shook our heads and only the lazy or uneducated (or both) try to make an effort,, Pittsburg ROCKS.
    Im no scientist or climate control expert and the data those that publish is sometimes difficult to decipher to the layman however we all know not to check the timing on our cars with the garage door closed.
    We are big on Clean and Green here in New Zealand however we are finding that we are 'filthy' in some areas especially agricultural and livestock effluent contaminating our waterways which obviously has a flow on effect (excuse the pun)
    There are low laying populated Islands and atolls here in the South Pacific that are being submerged and there people being relocated.. The irony of this being that these extremely isolated peoples dont even use fossil fuels.
    We all try to do better and we need to. That we are able to talk,debate and make our own efforts to improve, shows me that we are heading in the right direction and are aware that we can always do better.
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    Mr Beck,
    You obviously don't get it,, the dry will get drier.
    One day AZ will be like the Gobi,, not even a drop to wet a candy ass.
    Upside for you,,, your 911

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    So you guys want to do this again?

    Ok.

    Climate Change thread 3.0.

    The earth has been engaged in this cycle as long as it's been in existence.

    The HUBRIS it takes for man to think he is so almighty powerful to change its course is comical.

    How about taking Stephen Hawkings advice and leaving the planet? If you decide to do that please let me know so I can make an offer on your grossly polluting 911.

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    Crikey Frank,
    Your argument goes back to the late 60's early 70's and is of the 'narrow mindedness" (until proven otherwise) view point that reeks of Hubris.
    Each to their own I guess.
    Mark

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