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    I don’t know the details so can only take the article on face value but back in 2019 this newspaper article suggested there was a legal dispute looming:
    https://rennlist.com/articles/two-id...-off-in-court/

    I don’t have access to papers posted on the link below. Seems like some updates this month? Might this information be related to the legal case previously reported in the NY newspaper article ?
    https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/...it_v_Schachter
    Last edited by 911MRP; 05-31-2023 at 06:09 AM.

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    I am not going to create an account to read the PDF's either
    However I am certain it is related to that case and it seems to me, from reading what i can see there, that Jacob Shalit (who has the car he says came ex Mexico and was the one referenced in Starkey's book as "the car" as it has been known and around for much longer - I saw it in person in 2007) was looking to bring the case forward but that was rejected by the Judge.
    But is does not look to me (in the absence of seeing those documents) that it is the end of the case of which car (if either) is the "correct" car.

    With all the apparently fraudulent cars around now courtesy of groups such as the one on trial in Germany and others, it would be good to see some judicial ruling on this matter - however whether a court can get it "right" remains to be seen and honestly I am not hopeful
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    It appears the parties reached a settlement agreement however the details of such agreement are not available to the public.

    Still displayed on Schachter's website.

    https://www.rovecars.com/portfolio-i...-prototype-r7/

    Many court reporting sites list the case docket. Not sure if any show the actual settlement agreement.

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket...t-v-schachter/

    Case 1:19-cv-05971-NRB Document 97 Filed 05/23/23
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    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
    SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
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    JACOB SHALIT,
    Plaintiff, - against –
    KENNY SCHACHTER and ILONA RICH,
    Defendants.
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    NAOMI REICE BUCHWALD
    UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
    ORDER
    19 Civ. 5971 (NRB)
    WHEREAS, on May 22, 2023, the parties informed this Court that they have reached a settlement in principle;
    WHEREAS, at an in-person conference on May 23, 2023, the parties entered the broad terms of their settlement agreement on the record;
    WHEREAS the parties agreed that if the terms of the settlement agreement are not fully performed, plaintiff may file an application to restore this action or move to enforce the settlement agreement by February 29, 2024; it is hereby
    ORDERED that the above-captioned action be, and hereby is, dismissed without costs and without prejudice to restoring the action to this Court’s calendar if the application to restore the action is made by February 29, 2024.
    DATED:
    New York, New York
    May 23, 2023
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    [QUOTE=DOUGS73E;1154132]The Six Auction - Vente Aux Encheres Speciale Agrasc, Balsan Enchères, Cherre, France, June 29, 2023
    1973 Porsche 2.8L 911 Carrera RSR
    VIN: 9113601033
    Engine: 6930155
    Trans: -
    Color: White/Black
    Mileage:
    Auction Estimate: 1 000 000 - 2 000 000 EUR
    Sold for: TBD

    Attachment 597264

    Can anyone share the results from this auction on this and the other cars offered?
    LOOKING FOR:
    ENGINE Nos: 4080191, 911669
    GEARBOX Nos: 9282004, 131410, 115639

    1967 Porsche 911 P.A.R.T. Trans Am Rally Kit #308107
    1968 Porsche 911S Sebring GT class winner #11800224
    1971 Porsche 911S Targa Conda Green
    1973 Porsche 2.8 RSR ex-Targa Florio, 2xLeMans #9113600894

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    FS: Six Auction - 1971 2.3L 911S/T - #1270

    February 2023 - Artcurial Salon Rétromobile Auction - NO SALE
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    The Six Auction - Vente Aux Encheres Speciale Agrasc, Balsan Enchères, Cherre, France, June 29, 2023
    1971 Porsche 911 S/T Rally 2,3L
    VIN: 9111301270
    Engine: 6318011
    Trans: -
    Color: Irish Green/Black
    Mileage: 92,128 km (indicated)
    Auction Estimate: €500,000 - €1,000,000
    Sold for: €537,116 / ~US$589,460

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    February 2023 - Bonhams Goodwood Revival Auction
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    Goodwood Revival Auction - 9-10 september 2023
    1973 Martini-Porsche 911 Carrera 3.0 RSR Works Prototype (R7)
    VIN: 9113600686
    Engine: -
    Trans: -
    Color: Martini
    Mileage: -
    Auction Estimate: -
    Sold for: -


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    September Sports Car Market Legal Files column discusses 9113600686 and the lawsuit associated with it. Worth reading.

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    Any chance of a précis here for those who don’t subscribe?
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    In the absence of anyone with subscription providing a précis the auction listing in link above does have a few comments regarding the reported legal case and recent outcome:

    “Upon completion of its Martini Porsche works team season, 'R7' was sold to Mexican Porsche exponent Hector Rebaque for use in national racing back home. After competing successfully there in 'Viceroy' cigarette-brand colours, it was sold into the discreet long-term ownership of Italian enthusiast collector Massimo Baliva. In part due to the car's disappearance from the scene – Baliva essentially keeping his stewardship of the car very much to himself – some elements within the classic Porsche world assumed its destruction. As, is often the case a replica was constructed and when Massimo Baliva's car emerged from obscurity (he was selling his collection due to his advanced age) litigation ensued. The case was ordered dismissed and the case settled, with the replica car being acknowledged as such.

    The present car offered by Bonhams|Cars' authenticity had been confirmed by legendary Porsche engineer Norbert Singer (1973 Martini Porsche team manager) whose forensically detailed examination proved it indeed to be the original 1973 RSR team car 'R7'.”


    The link to the Bonhams listing is reposted here so the extract above can be read in context https://www.bonhams.com/press_release/36827/

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