Results 1 to 4 of 4

Thread: Correct finish for rear stub axles

  1. #1

    Correct finish for rear stub axles

    Hello All,

    What is the correct finish for the rear stub axles, both the constant velocity side and the drum/wheel side?
    This is a 1970 car
    What I have found so far suggests "black oxide".

    Thanks in advance

  2. #2
    Member #226 R Gruppe Life Member #147
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Portland, Oregon
    Posts
    2,355
    It's actually phosphating which creates the flat, black finish.

  3. #3
    I'm with Gled - black phosphate!

    - Rob

  4. #4
    Just for information there are two main types of 'phosphating' applied to steel and both are available in either black or dark grey finishes.

    Zinc Phosphating which is easier to apply and generally lower cost provides a porous surface which assists with corrosion protection as it will hold an oil film quite well.

    The better finish is Manganese Phosphating which produces a much harder film than Zinc, it produces good corrosion resitance, anti-galling charcteristics and improves lubricity.

    It also continues to provide continued wear protection even after break-in and is better than Zinc Phosphate in this respect. It would be my choice for any parts that have to withstand adhesive wear and involve sliding surfaces.

    Phosphating does cause a small dimensional change and many parts that use this finish have a 'process grinding' allowance to maintain 'fit'.

    Black oxide will produce a 'shiny' black finish compared to either of the phosphating processes but will produce little in the may of corrosion protection. It does not cause any measurable change of size.

    It is fairly abrasion resistant and good for 'indoor' applications but should only be considered as decorative.

    I would also consider baking any high strength steels (Hardness of 40 Rockwell 'C' and above) that had been treated with any of these processes to eliminate any potential Hydrogen Embrittlement.
    Last edited by chris_seven; 10-03-2017 at 12:30 AM.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Message Board Disclaimer and Terms of Use
This is a public forum. Messages posted here can be viewed by the public. The Early 911S Registry is not responsible for messages posted in its online forums, and any message will express the views of the author and not the Early 911S Registry. Use of online forums shall constitute the agreement of the user not to post anything of religious or political content, false and defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise to violate the law and the further agreement of the user to be solely responsible for and hold the Early 911S Registry harmless in the event of any claim based on their message. Any viewer who finds a message objectionable should contact us immediately by email. The Early 911S Registry has the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary.