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Thread: 1969 911S Versuch/Experimental found. Kardex Porsche factory driver Kurt Ahrens jr.

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    I wonder if Jürgen Barth can be contacted and can help.
    He is still around and busy, being back then a Porsche Driver in both Rallys and Races.
    He also helped with the 72 ex Toad Hall chassis.

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    I may have a lead to contact him , another thought would be Ahrens himself?
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    Well that was fast! I just got off the phone with Mr Barth and he told me a little history on the car.
    The conversation started well, with "That's an special car" or interesting I'm paraphrasing here!

    He said he believes Porsche allowed Ahrens to use the car in 1969 for races through the season. This was 1969 when Ahrens was racing
    the 917 for the world championship. Jurgen is currently at Daytona racing in the classic event so it was hard to hear everything
    that was said. He told me to contact him next week, he will try to dig up more information on the car and confirm what he told me.
    Stay tuned!

    I'm guessing when he left the team in 1970 they handed over the car? I can picture it in the paddock 1969 with the car parked
    among the red transporter and 917's

    What a pit vehicle! makes my scooter seem even more sad at my race events
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    911 1967S 308470
    [B]911 1965 301946 Irish Green
    [B]911 1965 302962 Polo Red
    911 1965 300760 White SOLD
    911 1971S S/T 2.5
    914-6 1970 GT 2.3
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    Cool find! Silver should be easy to spot next to Rodriguez' RHD orange S and Siffert's green one....

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    I confirmed a few more things today. The transmission is not original it is now 7195780 , on the Kardex it lists 7195444. Very close and odd to swap out to such a close number. Factory change maybe?
    Confirmed the paint code 6851 on the stamp...it is covered in paint so I could not get a picture of it. Here are a few shots of the car in its current state.
    As crazy as it might sound I have visions of stripping it down and turning it into a a proper 69 period race car. I have a fresh 69 S engine built to 2.5 long stroke

    Oh and I'd keep the large speakers in the rear lol
    Here is a short form of what is known so far:
    119300950

    3 bar grill is included
    s brakes
    Front oil cooler
    T engine
    E MFI
    901/13 Trans
    Scheel Race seats
    Tilt bases
    Original gauges
    Original oil tank
    VERSUSH factory car KARDEX verified
    Ahren ownership
    Jurgen Barth verified ,more info to come

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    911 1967S 308470
    [B]911 1965 301946 Irish Green
    [B]911 1965 302962 Polo Red
    911 1965 300760 White SOLD
    911 1971S S/T 2.5
    914-6 1970 GT 2.3
    Look for me at a track near you!
    Early S Reg #2699
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fubawu View Post
    . . . another thought would be Ahrens himself? . . .
    Yes-yes --- it would be very interesting to hear from Mr Ahrens . . . to maybe find out how he got the car, used it, and what he did with it


    Who knows . . .

    . . . he might even have some photographs


    And thanks again for posting all this!



    Of all the places for this sort of car to turn up . . .




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    The Canadian prairies are quite large. Where was this found?

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    Here are some interesting shots, I thought I found the car in the first pic but the windows look to foldout SWB. Shows he's a silver fan. Or possible the windows were swapped
    for personal preference?

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    Winning driver team Jo Siffert and Kurt Ahrens admire their trophies, the Porsche 917 #009 was entered by Freiherr von Wendt, note Bonnier in the background

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    1000 km Zeltweg 1969: Winning driver team Jo Siffert and Kurt Ahrens admire their trophies, second placed Joakim Bonnier watches them from behind
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    Vic Elford (GB) and Kurt Ahrens, Jr. (D) retire in lap 225 with engine problems - the Porsche 917L #042 is entered by Porsche KG Salzburg
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    Winning driver team Jo Siffert and Kurt Ahrens admire their trophies, the Porsche 917 #009 was entered by Freiherr von Wendt, note Bonnier in the background
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    1000 km Zeltweg 1969: Laurel on the winning Porsche 917 009 of Jo Siffert (CH), Kurt Ahrens, Jr. (D) entered by Freiherr von Wendt
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    The victorious Porsche 908/03 008 of Vic Elford (GB) and Kurt Ahrens, Jr. (D) takes the chequered flag
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    Last edited by Fubawu; 11-14-2017 at 08:07 AM.
    911 1967S 308470
    [B]911 1965 301946 Irish Green
    [B]911 1965 302962 Polo Red
    911 1965 300760 White SOLD
    911 1971S S/T 2.5
    914-6 1970 GT 2.3
    Look for me at a track near you!
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    Just heard back from the Ahrens racing team and they confirmed that this is the car. Windows must have been
    changed, also notice the rear wiper? Ahrens son told me he and his father were speaking about this car the other night
    trying to remember details. He said that every few years he would get another Porsche so it mixes together.

    One very interesting fact he said was the 1969 was a Factory test car but could not remember the details.


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    Last edited by Fubawu; 11-14-2017 at 07:48 AM.
    911 1967S 308470
    [B]911 1965 301946 Irish Green
    [B]911 1965 302962 Polo Red
    911 1965 300760 White SOLD
    911 1971S S/T 2.5
    914-6 1970 GT 2.3
    Look for me at a track near you!
    Early S Reg #2699
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    Hi
    Great find and thanks for posting the thread here... BTW where do the in-period shots come from?
    Stephen
    1966 911 Coupe - Slate Grey - 304598 - still in restoration!

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