Philips radios offered in 1972 or post 68

[karlusmagnus]

I had asked a question in a for sale ad, and Steve kindly replied, but i thought that it might be better continued in a thread, specifically about Phillips radios. The question I was asking was about translating some of the info that Steve posted, regarding types of Phillips radios and the actual model numbers for them. Would anyone have an insight on this?

These posts reminded me to check my files...the 208 model appears in my German market Becker full 16 page brochure dated 1972...

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...and also in my Becker multi language foldout brochure dated 3/72 with an English language discription (this brochure opens up with a neat full size a map of Germany around 1972 on the reverse)...

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I notice that "Olympia" designation seems to have been dropped on your unit's face with just "Becker Cassette" appearing despite the "Olympia" designation still appearing in the associated matching number paperwork. I think my estimate in post above of G= 70/71 is still reasonably accurate for dating your unit...but maybe this small name change detail on faceplate points to your actual example being having been produced in 1971 shortly ahead of the 72 208 series illustrated in my various 1972 brochures ....rather than one with "Olympia" printed on faceplate if it had been from the earlier part of Becker 70/71 production year. Since it was an aftermarket cassette accessory (never factory fit afaik) allowing for lead time and given this faceplate it could also look appropriate in 1972 cars -- despite your paperwork indicating it was probaly slightly earlier.

Model 208 also appears with the "Becker Cassette" faceplate not "Olympia" in the Geman retailer FB Auto-Radio GMbH catalogue / price list for 1972 alongside other similar listings for Blaupunkt, Philips and Grundig product range ...
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In summary: my guess for picky owners wanting to fit something from correct year it is probably most appropriate in a 71 or maybe an earlier 72 car, based in this evidence. Suspect a 70 produced would have carried the "Olympia" faceplate script like the example illustrated in the 70 brochure (post #2) and as illustrated in your unit's paperwork. Others may not care so much.

If anyone knows better I'm happy to learn and be corrected of course.

I have a lot more autoradio stuff from this era including other retailers brochures, the ex-factory to dealer full pricelist covering units plus all vehicle fitting kit information, detaled accessories for Becker, Blaupunkt etc... but maybe the above is sufficient for you and prospective buyers.

Hope this helps.

Steve.

Certainly Karl

72 Philips in the same German market brochure....
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Wonder if we'll see bunch of Philips autoradio from the autoradio FS regulars

Best Steve

Thanks Steve, and apologies to Typ901 for intruding on his for sale ad. This however seems more like a Tech info article, thanks to Steve. The next part of the mystery is translating the names of the different Philips models (Jeep Lexus, Spyder de Luxe, Sprint etc) into model numbers like 22RN710 or wwRN531 or 22RN236 etc etc. Does anyone know what model numbers were used? Were any installed at the factory vs dealer installed (option code was always M449)

This is German option list for MY 73

[blucille]

I had done a lot of research and searched diligently back in the early 2000’s for the type of Phillips cassette that was factory installed in my 69 S. When I’m home this weekend, I’ll gather some of that data and update the post.

But, I ran an ebay search for years and never found a radio come up for sale that was even close. I hope you have better luck.

[gulf908]

KM

this pic is from the small accessories brochure dated 10/70
the same pic also appears in the similar brochure dated Sept '68 code 9470
no specific Phillips model numbers though
the particular radio may not have been offerred in all markets
good luck navigating the rabbit hole !

HTH
Dennis

[gulf908]

cant upload tif
here is the 9/68 pic
the code for 1971 is M 449

Dennis

[911MRP]

Karl

My photo attachments disappeared in the quote above so reposting to be in context of this new thread





I have the manufacturer model numbers for Philips in 73 (and the Porsche fitting kit number) but hadn't posted them as you only mentioned 72. I'll post them later. Hadn't intended to be a sort of librarian of this old in carradio stuff but a job lot of brochures, service manuals and other stuff I got from a retiring German autoradio guy for a few specifics of interest has quite a lot of info from 60s and 70s that is too good to throw away.

Be nice to see some in period correct variety. I suspect in the absence of specific CoA or sales invoice many rstorers have defaulted to Bosch or Becker rather than Philips, Radiomobile or other brands that were available and would have got fitted.

Iirc Philips invented the cassette. Would be interesting to know who was the first autoradio manufacturer to have it in car but suspicion is the 68 example pictured above from Denis would have been quite early example of a radiocassette.

HtH

[gulf908]

guys

here ya go ....

http://antique-autoradio-madness.org...ps-1968_01.htm

the Phillips cassette integrated in the radio is in 1968 and the English ad is from Autocar 1 August 1968
code is RN 582 E
the cassette unit by itself appeared a year earlier
I have found this Belgian site a great source of info and equally a wonderful timewaster !

hth
Dennis

[gulf908]

not having much of a life down here at 11:30 pm,I had a look at the only 1968 Autocar I have
Lo and be old,here is the very same ad on p 15 of the 31 October 1968 edition
this issue has the UK test of a '69 E sporto with the blue motor show cover

there ya go again .....

cheers
Dennis

[rickrick]

This radio is in my 75 coupe - can anyone identify it? is it a Phillips?

- rick

[blucille]

My notes revealed my 1969 911S was delivered new from the factory with an optional phillips 22RN582 cassette radio.

[911MRP]

Karl

As promised 73 info

Source UK Motor magazine's supplement guide to InCar late March 1973 prices in £ (* includes speaker)



Organised by price group so here are the Philips entries. I've included the full section that has the Frankfurt






Coincidentally supplement use a Philips 511 model similar to Frankfurt price as examplar of spec...

Also guide covers Philips radio-cassettes

The Philips refered to by Sonet ... Was it the first radiocassette in the 911 or is thre evidence of other brands having radio-cassette in 911 before eg Becker Mexico? (On another old thread think the date first stereo radio was ifentified)





Maybe these model references can help if you cross ref to radio museum or similar sites on www

Steve