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    I hear that there is video available from inside and outside the car which will hopefully shed some light. Most likely will show that the woman simply walked out in front of the car without adequate time to cross. I bet it would of happened even if the car was not autonomous. It does every day! There is no way the babysitter behind the wheel can react as quickly as a normal driver. He is probably as relaxed as the passenger in the rear seat.....well maybe not on his first few drives!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theunz View Post
    I hear that there is video available from inside and outside the car which will hopefully shed some light. Most likely will show that the woman simply walked out in front of the car without adequate time to cross. I bet it would of happened even if the car was not autonomous. It does every day! There is no way the babysitter behind the wheel can react as quickly as a normal driver. He is probably as relaxed as the passenger in the rear seat.....well maybe not on his first few drives!
    Agreed but the seat potato behind the wheel was never engaged enough to even attempt counter measures. Not that he/she/it/Zi could have done anything... From the looks of things it wouldn’t surprise me if investigators discovered a large BM lodged under the brake pedal.

    Uber deserves a plastic trophy or ribbon for “diversity” and exemplary PC inclusiveness but shouldn’t they also be held responsible if they hire “Safety Drivers” who really aren’t qualified at all to handle an emergency situation? Mark my words: They will quickly come up with a different name to replace “Safety DRIVER.”

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    Having seen the video, a human would not have done any better. The victim did not appear to have any reflective clothing and lighting was poor.
    The robot car actually should have been better equipped as they should have infrared and other sensors that do not need light, at least they should.
    Not hitting a pedestrian is one of the most basic tests of autonomous vehicles.
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    From what I saw, nothing would have saved her, driver or not. Even robots can't fix stupid. Or take it into account with their programing.

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    That's not what I saw. An attentive driver (one actually with their hands on the wheel) would've been looking ahead using full peripheral vision and would've slowed down and/or taken measures to avoid the pedestrian (who always has the right-of-way). So does the Uber CEO get charged with manslughter?
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    I'm of the mind frame that these robot cars "have to be better" than a majority of humans driving who are reading the newspaper, doing their makeup, eating a Big Mac, drunk, on their cellphone, etc, etc.
    There are so many distracted drivers today that's it's no wonder we make it to our intended destination at all?
    They'll get glitches like this hammered out, but I'm in agreement with those that said a human driver would have killed this pedestrian as well.
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    I saw the videos and thought that that is exactly the kind of situation LIDAR should have been able to detect and avoid... the Volvo didn't attempt to divert or slow down... it seems as if the system just didn't see the woman. I think it is a bit much to pass the blame onto the accident victim at this stage... it doesn't seem right that these things are being tested on our roads when they cannot detect a moving target and react to it... in the video you see the woman at the last moment... an alert driver would probably have seen the person before then... an autonomous system should have been able to detect the person sooner...
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    Various levels of autonomous cars. Curious to see what the legal implications are for the person behind wheel and the company who contracted them for role (uber?), the various autonomous controls manufacturers / and or the OEM and specialists who integrated them and thensanctioned the test.

    I assume this was stage 2 of the 6 stages...not stage 3 or higher stage.

    Level 2 (”hands off”): The automated system takes full control of the vehicle (accelerating, braking, and steering). The driver must monitor the driving and be prepared to immediately intervene at any time if the automated system fails to respond properly. The shorthand ”hands off” is not meant to be taken literally. In fact, contact between hand and wheel is often mandatory during SAE 2 driving, to confirm that the driver is ready to intervene.

    Level 3 (”eyes off”): The driver can safely turn their attention away from the driving tasks, e.g. the driver can text or watch a movie. The vehicle will handle situations that call for an immediate response, like emergency braking. The driver must still be prepared to intervene within some limited time, specified by the manufacturer, when called upon by the vehicle to do so.

    Sad situation for the pedestrian and family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Beck View Post
    Agreed but the seat potato behind the wheel was never engaged enough to even attempt counter measures.
    Perhaps the truest and most prescient data to be mined from these "tests" yet. What do people really think the "drivers" will be doing? Everything except actually driving? Riiiiiiight.

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