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    You are welcome. Your work helps for mine about the 928 S4 Club-Sport's development, so it is a pleasure to share what I have found.

    Quote Originally Posted by HughH View Post
    and Patrick, if R5 is anything to go by, I think there should be a simple Dymo "R6" in the LHD door at the same place as the R5 and F23 in my pictures. I have also seen the same label in the same position on the door in period pictures of werks ST's such as E27 (one of the 1972 Monte Carlo cars)

    does anyone know what the letters after R6 or the other ones on the window label might stand for?? They don't all appear to be the same. E40 had EVFF
    I'm convinced that the letters after the internal designation are the acronym of the service in which the car is used.
    And my guess is that first E stands Entwiklung (development).

    It seems that the code was shorter during the '80s.
    Examples:
    B22 EVA, a 924 Carrera GT.
    F8 ERE, a 959 prototype, base on a 930 body.
    H21 EPA, a 928 Convertible prototype.

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    @928cs: I always assumed the VF would stand for ‘versuchs fahrzeug’ (test vehicle or prototype) but it’s a bit double if the ‘E’ would stand for ‘entwiklung’ (development). Who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick911 View Post
    @928cs: I always assumed the VF would stand for ‘versuchs fahrzeug’ (test vehicle or prototype) but it’s a bit double if the ‘E’ would stand for ‘entwikkung’ (development). Who knows?
    I asked someone who must be able to answer to this question.
    I will let you know what I will learn, or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughH View Post
    (...) At Monza both R6 and R8 had decals for Dunlop and above that Bilstein on rear quarter panels next to that ad hoc tail piece with the tail piece covering a part of the Dunlop but not the Bilstein
    At the Targa car #8 (R6) has a SHELL decal above the Dunlop covering the painted on Bilstein one and slightly covering the tape holding down the edge of the tail
    Hi Hugh, you're right, but I did found more pictures that showed that R6 on the practice day still had the Dunlop & Bilstein stickers, and that they put these ad-hoc side tail-pieces on after practice.
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    The great thing about this picture is that it also backs up what we mentioned before, that individual parts would be labelled 'R6' or 'R8'.
    However, the series of pictures shows R6 (911.360.0588, with race number #8) getting the side tail pieces from the - by then crashed original #107 - R8 car.
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    ...Still looking for detail pictures of that rear window label.
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    that is a fantastic photo of putting R8's tail pieces onto R6 I have never seen that before

    also it shows that the Bilstein sign-writing must have been a decal as it is no longer on the quarter when they are putting the new tail pieces on and as you say the SHELL decal was put on at that stage - after practice
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    Quote Originally Posted by 928cs View Post
    I asked someone who must be able to answer to this question.
    I will let you know what I will learn, or not.
    Ok, so here is the answer:
    - We were right that this is the car's internal designation, followed by the department that uses it.
    - Sadly, my contact doesn't know the meaning of the department's abbreviations.

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    A few small updates. Things are moving quite fast at the moment.
    As you may have seen elsewhere on this forum, a genuine NOS set of 2.8 RSR High Butterfly Injection stacks was for sale and guess where they will go?
    Yes, chuffed to bits with this, although the price is something i will have to try and forget. David's (Cornpanzer) asking price was fair, but the value of these things is just in another league nowadays.
    Anyway, whilst they are on their way to the big island, I got word from Zuffenhaus that the brakes are going to be shipped as well! Yay, only took 16 months! Glad i didn't need them in a hurry.
    KJ apparently has started work on my fuel cell, so hopefully there's some good news there soon too.
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    What else, the sanding is still happening; after the epoxy (& sanding) it got primered (and sanded), then primered again (which now has to be wet-sanded) to get a great finish.
    As my metal guy, who has done a few award winning cars, says: you'll see everything on silver, so it has to be perfect.
    So we're getting there, but there's still hours of manual labor to do before the car is ready for paint.
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    We were talking details to finish before paint, and one of them is the hood.
    As you may have read before, those hoods were fibreglass and did bend when the cars were going flat out, so they used balsa wood strips.
    A bit of searching here on the forum turned up that the German manufacturer of those wood strips was mainly doing model airplanes, which I found fitting because the only place s here in Australia where you find strips of balsa wood are hobby-stores. Anyway, those are purchased and we'll try to replicate those as close as we can.

    Then something I need your help with.
    The two covers over the petrol-filling dry breaks. I can determine the position once I have the fuel cell ready, and I can determine the correct size from pictures and the diameter of the dry-breaks, but the mechanism to open them? I've found one single detail picture (of R2 - the museum car), and i think i may get the latches they used locally, but the flush finger-pull mechanism? Anyone got any idea what they may have used there?
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    Finally, when searching Ebay when bored during a WFH lunch break, I ran into this signed picture of R6 at the Targa. Never seen this one before, so took a gamble and bought it.
    It turned up in the mail this morning and seems to be legit. Happy start of the weekend!
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    I think that you need to remind to your metal worker that these cars were initially white, then quickly repainted in silver for the next race... so perfect, they were not.

    For the latches, they remind me some used on airplanes.

    https://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ap/latches.html

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    That’s awesome! Thanks again!
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