What’s the pinnacle of early 911’s?

[NZVW]

"mass production" ST

24 = mass production.

I am still giggling

Thanks Hugh

[LongRanger]

. . . if I could choose only one early car I would go for the 1969 GTS . . . special build and only 3 were made (As far as I can determine) . . .

Hear-hear . . .

. . . Porsche's 'funny car'

All kinds of tricky/sneaky little bits on this . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l=1#post676522

Looks pretty-much like any other early 911, so most people have zero idea what they're looking at . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...=1#post1019129





My honorable mentions would be the Faktory's hot rods --- the cars that anyone could 've ordered --- if they wanted to . . . or knew how . . .

. . . like the '70 S lightweight . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l=1#post492401

. . . and the '72 S M471 lightweight . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l=1#post863437





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[HughH]

Hi mark
On my numbers there were at least 64 factory built ST's made, as well as a lot more that were built privately using factory kits
I think that factory built ones (both rally and track) were
1970MY at least 23 of which 7 were used by the factory team in competition
1971MY at least 15 of which 7 were factory use rally cars
1972MY 4 factory owned / used rally or Versuch cars plus 21 "customer" 2.5 M491 cars

Plus one 1969 MY car rebuilt from a wreck by the factory as a 1970ST for a competition client

[Longballa]

2.5L 72 ST. Stop the debate, mic drop! I'm done with this thread! Haha

[Chuck Miller]

2.5L 72 ST. Stop the debate, mic drop! I'm done with this thread! Haha

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One of my pics from Rennsport III

[72targa]

Well the '72 S of course!

[rower]

I'm with Hugh on the factory specials: the GTS tried to do an awful lot at a critical time in the company's history.

Street car though: I think the 2.2S is ideal. Still high strung and compressed; but a little less peaky than the MFI 2.0S.
I know it's probably heresy to many, but the 67S has never done much for me.

The 2.7RS begin to feel too modern to me but that also makes them much more drivable.

To each his own

I have all 3 of these and I agree the 2.7 while incredibly potent feels so modern. When I’m on back roads though in the RS and pushing it I just can’t imagine another car that would walk away from it. - though undoubtedly new super cars could. It’s just a testament to how far ahead that car was and how precise.

I prefer my 67s to my 70s when in motion but my
67s is particularly strong with a sport kit.

[steve shea]

Well of course they are street usable. And if that is the criteria, the hell with an early 911 I'll take a street modified 67 910. But then again I don't want to look like I got lost on my way to the track.

[blue72s]

I seem to remember reading a book that many of the factory drivers at the time liked the 2.3ST 66mm stroke engine.

Special 85mm pistons (higher compression) in stock Biral cylinders bored from 84mm to 85mm
2,247cc
power: 230 PS @ 8000 rpm
valve diameter intake/exhaust: 45mm/39mm
valve lift intake/exhaust: 12.1mm/10.5mm
Type 911/20 = injected; 911/22 = Webers

I also prefer a street legal car.

For the street, 2.2E with S pistons gets my vote.

[NZVW]

Hugh,

You are a data base of knowledge.

Since they are so "common" I will run with (just 1) of the 7 Competition factory team ST's.

Nice Thread