Seeking opinions on 71 911S @ 2Shores

[71six]

Seeking opinion on switching from 1973S to 1971S, can't have both so (pout ) trying to make the best decision. Any history on this car?

Thanks,
Mark

[Arne]

This one? 9111300375

https://2shores.com/en/cars/offers/1...upe/349/detail

[Scott A]

I like the 2.2 cars.
I like the dash badge. The basket weave. The chrome bumperettes.
The grill. The other bright work. The metal horn grills.
I even like the backwards clutch.
The mechanical fuel pump.
And in general that the car is closer to the first 901.

I think the 73 had more plastic. More corporate cost savings, more smog related.
But. They did fix a bunch with the 73.

[71six]

You are correct Arne I had a senior moment and forgot to put the link to the car in the original post.

Mark

[LongRanger]

. . . This one? 9111300375 . . .

https://2shores.com/en/cars/offers/1...upe/349/detail

VIN = 9111300375
Eng# = 6310623
Trans# = ?
Prod# = ?


'. . . This car was repainted to original specifications in 2008. The body- and paintwork has been done to a high standard and still presents very nice today.
The numbers matching motor is also rebuild and runs flawless. The mileage of 74500 is believed to be original with no more than 1500 miles since restoration.

The interior of the car is in appealing condition with genuine leather sport seats and hounds tooth interior with matching coco mats. Rare through the grille fog lights and Euro spec ride height . . .'



.

[LongRanger]

. . . Seeking opinion on switching from 1973S to 1971S . . .

The best way to answer your question? . . .

. . . is for you to drive a 2.2

I think what you'll notice almost immediately is a very different personality --- familiar . . . and unfamiliar

Below 3000 rpm, there's just not much torque and the 2.2 'll feel a bit breathless, disappointing. Throttle response under any load at low rpm is casual, at best. But once the revs climb to that certain point? --- >3500 rpm? . . . the character changes dramatically. The engine comes on with a low sort of bellow that to me seems totally out of character for such a small engine --- I mean, we're talking about 135 cubic inches, here . . . and that low-rpm laziness gives way to a growing sense of urgency that builds rapidly with the revs. The throttle sharpens-up a LOT --- the car shivering at even the slightest pedal movements . . . so you need to pay close attention to how you use it

The 901 (911, actually) gearbox is a chore, at first --- both when moving off, and then using underway. Compared to almost anything else --- except maybe contemporary Volkswagens . . . the lever's action feels almost weightless, unconnected, yet the actual engagement takes some particular effort --- both mental + tactile . . . to pull off

For me, the key to operating the thing is to keep the revs up --- kinda like a motorcycle. Unlike most modern street cars that are tuned to toddle along 1500-2000 rpm, the 2.2 needs to be humming along >3000 . . . the pot always just below the boiling point. As for the gearbox? --- weeeell . . . you're just gonna hafta get some practice with it. You don't just reflexively run through some heavily-sprung gate, snick-snicking gears. Even compared to a 915, you'll need to concentrate --- especially at first

Which is what makes the 2.2 special for me --- that amount of effort, the level of participation required to operate the car properly . . . like nothing else. The car is intimate and cozy to be in, lots of easy-to-read gauges, wonderful feelsome steering, excellent brakes, lah-dee-dah-dee-dah . . .

. . . but managing that engine's urgency? --- with an alien gearbox? . . . will either put you off completely . . .

. . . or utterly absorb you

For me? --- the 2.2 is what makes the Early 911 so special. It's not about power or torque or speed . . . or anything I can quantify with numbers

It's about what I have to do --- the effort required . . . just to get the frickin' thing started + running + pointed down the road --- with any kind of composure. It's thrilling . . . and utterly exhausting


If you have the chance to drive a 2.2, then I hope you'll share your impressions



I love mine to bits



.

[mac73s]

I like the 2.2 cars.
I like the dash badge. The basket weave. The chrome bumperettes.
The grill. The other bright work. The metal horn grills.
I even like the backwards clutch.
The mechanical fuel pump.
And in general that the car is closer to the first 901.

I think the 73 had more plastic. More corporate cost savings, more smog related.
But. They did fix a bunch with the 73.

Mechanical fuel pump??

[Saskia]

The best way to answer your question? . . .

. . . is for you to drive a 2.2

I think what you'll notice almost immediately is a very different personality --- familiar . . . and unfamiliar

Below 3000 rpm, there's just not much torque and the 2.2 'll feel a bit breathless, disappointing. Throttle response under any load at low rpm is casual, at best. But once the revs climb to that certain point? --- >3500 rpm? . . . the character changes dramatically. The engine comes on with a low sort of bellow that to me seems totally out of character for such a small engine --- I mean, we're talking about 135 cubic inches, here . . . and that low-rpm laziness gives way to a growing sense of urgency that builds rapidly with the revs. The throttle sharpens-up a LOT --- the car shivering at even the slightest pedal movements . . . so you need to pay close attention to how you use it

The 901 (911, actually) gearbox is a chore, at first --- both when moving off, and then using underway. Compared to almost anything else --- except maybe contemporary Volkswagens . . . the lever's action feels almost weightless, unconnected, yet the actual engagement takes some particular effort --- both mental + tactile . . . to pull off

For me, the key to operating the thing is to keep the revs up --- kinda like a motorcycle. Unlike most modern street cars that are tuned to toddle along 1500-2000 rpm, the 2.2 needs to be humming along >3000 . . . the pot always just below the boiling point. As for the gearbox? --- weeeell . . . you're just gonna hafta get some practice with it. You don't just reflexively run through some heavily-sprung gate, snick-snicking gears. Even compared to a 915, you'll need to concentrate --- especially at first

Which is what makes the 2.2 special for me --- that amount of effort, the level of participation required to operate the car properly . . . like nothing else. The car is intimate and cozy to be in, lots of easy-to-read gauges, wonderful feelsome steering, excellent brakes, lah-dee-dah-dee-dah . . .

. . . but managing that engine's urgency? --- with an alien gearbox? . . . will either put you off completely . . .

. . . or utterly absorb you

For me? --- the 2.2 is what makes the Early 911 so special. It's not about power or torque or speed . . . or anything I can quantify with numbers

It's about what I have to do --- the effort required . . . just to get the frickin' thing started + running + pointed down the road --- with any kind of composure. It's thrilling . . . and utterly exhausting


If you have the chance to drive a 2.2, then I hope you'll share your impressions



I love mine to bits



.

A brilliant summary!

[50/50]

A brilliant summary!

Former Ghost Writer for J.Peterman

[davep]

By the way, this car IS owned by a member here.