New SWB Taillights and Turn Signals from Porsche Classic

[LiveFromNY]

Warning: Extreme Geekdom Ahead.

So, a final word on the "230" font on the back side of the housings. After looking at the photos from 70SATMan, I was inspired to get to the bottom of this (tiny) issue once and for all and I spent a couple hours at my shop today looking at more NOS and used units (including U.S. and Italian versions) and pulling the turn signals from half-a-dozen SWB cars in my collection. I also looked at probably another hundred photos online and I have what I believe to be the final answer.

On original Porsche SWB turn signals, the 230 font is different between the driver side and passenger side housings. Specifically, ALL driver side (left) housings use a font with a flat-topped 3 in the 230 while ALL passenger side (right) housings use a standard 3 in the 230. This appears to be true across all years of manufacture and all versions (Euro, U.S. and Italian). Of the nearly 100 turn signals on my shelves and on my cars, ALL of them follow this rule and every photograph I was able to find (including those posted by 70SATMan in this thread) show the same.

The new Porsche Classic units use a standard 3 on both sides meaning that their passenger side units are correct while their driver side units are incorrect.

Yes, I know this is a silly detail compared to the housing, color, and BOSCH font issues but the pandemic has resulted in more free time in my life and this was more fun than cleaning my garage.

[jmz]

Warning: Extreme Geekdom Ahead.

So, a final word on the "230" font on the back side of the housings. After looking at the photos from 70SATMan, I was inspired to get to the bottom of this (tiny) issue once and for all and I spent a couple hours at my shop today looking at more NOS and used units (including U.S. and Italian versions) and pulling the turn signals from half-a-dozen SWB cars in my collection. I also looked at probably another hundred photos online and I have what I believe to be the final answer.

On original Porsche SWB turn signals, the 230 font is different between the driver side and passenger side housings. Specifically, ALL driver side (left) housings use a font with a flat-topped 3 in the 230 while ALL passenger side (right) housings use a standard 3 in the 230. This appears to be true across all years of manufacture and all versions (Euro, U.S. and Italian). Of the nearly 100 turn signals on my shelves and on my cars, ALL of them follow this rule and every photograph I was able to find (including those posted by 70SATMan in this thread) show the same.

The new Porsche Classic units use a standard 3 on both sides meaning that their passenger side units are correct while their driver side units are incorrect.

Yes, I know this is a silly detail compared to the housing, color, and BOSCH font issues but the pandemic has resulted in more free time in my life and this was more fun than cleaning my garage.

I DID NOT KNOW THIS LEVEL OF PORSCHE NERD EVEN EXISTED!

I feel so normal now. Thank You!

[LiveFromNY]

I DID NOT KNOW THIS LEVEL OF PORSCHE NERD EVEN EXISTED!

I feel so normal now. Thank You!

Happy to be of assistance, Jay.

[rower]

It is surprising about the color. I assume that was careless and not a regulatory issue? The fact that the Bosch font was off makes me suspect generally carelessness.

The 356 community can be just as nerdy, and there are fewer examples to be found. Which style one year only 1959 turn signal light and lens for example? Twist or wedge? Which part number? Matching lens?

So at least there are enough numbers that Porsche is paying attention I suppose and people like John and Eric are creating quite acceptable alternatives. I guess that’s the upside.

Eric did reproduce the pickle fork early 356 windshield wipers as those were pricey.

All part of the Porsche community!

[70SATMan]

Warning: Extreme Geekdom Ahead.

So, a final word on the "230" font on the back side of the housings. After looking at the photos from 70SATMan, I was inspired to get to the bottom of this (tiny) issue once and for all and I spent a couple hours at my shop today looking at more NOS and used units (including U.S. and Italian versions) and pulling the turn signals from half-a-dozen SWB cars in my collection. I also looked at probably another hundred photos online and I have what I believe to be the final answer.

On original Porsche SWB turn signals, the 230 font is different between the driver side and passenger side housings. Specifically, ALL driver side (left) housings use a font with a flat-topped 3 in the 230 while ALL passenger side (right) housings use a standard 3 in the 230. This appears to be true across all years of manufacture and all versions (Euro, U.S. and Italian). Of the nearly 100 turn signals on my shelves and on my cars, ALL of them follow this rule and every photograph I was able to find (including those posted by 70SATMan in this thread) show the same.

The new Porsche Classic units use a standard 3 on both sides meaning that their passenger side units are correct while their driver side units are incorrect.

Yes, I know this is a silly detail compared to the housing, color, and BOSCH font issues but the pandemic has resulted in more free time in my life and this was more fun than cleaning my garage.

I find the same kind of zen when going through my stuff as well. Brilliant sleuthing!

[preS]

Great research, however there are always exceptions



Also do you know how the stamps can be deciphered?



Richard

[Unobtanium-inc]

I know the discussion has focused on the lights that are on offer. But when I started this thread it was to discuss the quality and likability of the new products from Porsche Classic. With that being said, they have a crest that looks pretty cool.

Described as,
"here is the newest match From Porsche Classic

The "Holy Grail" -original PORSCHE new edition of the historical dealer crest

Absolutely perfect new edition of the Porsche advertising sign true to the original

As at the time, it was lavishly enamelled in several layers and colors

Dimensions: approx. 46 x 35 cm

Heavy version: approx. 1.6 kg


Beautifully historically packaged. Including Porsche lead seal and historical description

The crowning glory for every men's cave

Porsche Order No: 644 70100 710

Directly available from your Porsche Dealer (Porsche Center) or can be ordered on our website ( www. erlkoenig-classic.de)"

[66S]

Too bad these arent a product of Mr. Kemmer., the master. Original USA rear swb signal lenses are not painted as the repros appear to be, the (darker) red is the color of the plastic so they dont fade like the Euro lenses do. That crest on the sign tag is disturbing.

[70SATMan]

Isn’t the sign tag what the first Porsche concept badge looked like? Essentially the shape of the Stuttgart crest with the Porsche modification. Then they modified the shape.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Isn’t the sign tag what the first Porsche concept badge looked like? Essentially the shape of the Stuttgart crest with the Porsche modification. Then they modified the shape.

They originally did it on a cocktail napkin, Ferry Porsche and Max Hoffman.

---Adam