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    Xavier Petit-Jean-Boret Xavier PJB's Avatar
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    Porsche 911s - Tour de France 1969

    Greetings,

    As some of you may know, I did participate to "Tour Auto Optic 2000" 2020 edition with my SWB. that was fantastic.
    Nevertheless, I entered into the regularity group, because my swb does not have a HTP (PTH in French), I could not be within the "competition" group (the one that does flat out / pedal to the metal)

    Therefore, I now have the project to get a HTP for my swb and get registered in "competition" group for the 2021 edition.
    Now I need to find Porsche 911 SWBs which is neither a prototype nor group 4 (like a R or T/R), which entered the Tour de France Auto in 1969. I would be then in a position to "replicate" it and get registered etc.

    Here the list of 911s I seek information (like pictures or tech specs) about to build/replicate :

    Porsche 911 S 2000 cat. SPT2.0 #85 driven by Hugues de Ferlant and Christian Delferrier
    Porsche 911 S 2000 cat. GT2.0 #130 driven by J. Hullsman
    Porsche 911 S 2000 cat. GT2.0 #131 driven by Georges Alexandrovitch
    Porsche 911 S 2000 cat. GT2.0 #132 driven by Jean-Georges Branche

    Below the one with a question mark as a model - in Europe there was no normal but Ts and Ss if am right.
    Porsche 911 ? 2000 cat. SPT2.0 #81 driven by Pierre Portier
    Porsche 911 ? 2000 cat. SPT2.0 #82 driven by Jean Sage
    Porsche 911 ? 2000 cat. TS2.0 #83 driven by J. Lemaitre
    Porsche 911 ? 2000 cat. SPT2.0 #84 driven by Guy Chasseuil (looks like a T/R - but this one is #84 and the T/R with the similar Decoration is #121 in GT2.0 class)

    FIA class from 1966 to 1969 (changed from 1970)
    SPT2.0 = Special Touring 2000 or Group 5
    TS2.0 = Touring 2000 or Group 2
    GT2.0 = Grand Tourisme 2000 or group ?

    Any information is more than welcome.

    All the best.

    EDIT-below my updated research :

    These are the various FIA homologation sheets I found on the FIA historic database. These are pre 1970.

    - Form 183 is Group 3, Grand Tourisme (GT) class, 911 -> https://historicdb.fia.com/car/porsche-911-1
    - Form 503 is Group 4, Grand Tourisme Special (GTS) class, 1966, 911 & 911L -> https://historicdb.fia.com/car/porsche-911-0
    - Form 547 is Group 4, Grand Tourisme Special class, (GTS) 911 S -> https://historicdb.fia.com/car/porsche-911-s-1
    - Form 577 is group 3, Grand Tourisme class (GT), 911 T -> https://historicdb.fia.com/car/porsche-911-t-0
    - Form 1451 is Group 2, Tourisme class, 911 & 911L -> https://historicdb.fia.com/car/porsche-911-2

    Therefore, if I make an attempt (what a headhache !) to match homologation form to the 911s non prototype/non TR attending the 1969 TdF, that might look like :
    Assuming group 2 and 5 same FIA form

    Porsche 911 ? 2000 cat. TS2.0 #83 Form 1451 - group2 or Tourisme ( 1965 or 1966 normale, 1967 normale, or 1968 L)

    Porsche 911 ? 2000 cat. SPT2.0 #81
    Form 1451 - group 5 or or Special Tourisme (SPT)
    Porsche 911 ? 2000 cat. SPT2.0 #82 Form 183 or 503 - group x or xxxxxxx (1965 as per the Vin 303076)
    Porsche 911 ? 2000 cat. SPT2.0 #84 Form 1451 - group 5 or Special Tourisme (SPT) (Model ? seems to be a 1966 or a 1967)
    Porsche 911 S 2000 cat. SPT2.0 #85 Form 1451 - group 5
    or Special Tourisme (SPT) ( 911 S)

    I tend to believe that the privateers played with the model types and homologation sheets.
    One possible scenario : a 911 S or T or L or normale are 911 after all, and then they could entered a 911 S as a generic 911. As an exemple : form 1451 is group 2 / Tourisme and concerns only 911 coupé from 1966, add on in 1967 and another for the 911L in 1968.

    However the FIA homologation forms specifies in field #250 the HP. So for 1451 it is 130HP. Therefore how #85 can be competing in SPT with form 1451 ?

    Man, that is a very complex riddle indeed.

    Porsche 911 T 2000 cat. GT2.0 #124 GT class, form 577 -
    Porsche 911 T 2000 cat. GT2.0 #125 GT class, form 577 -
    Porsche 911 T 2000 cat. GT2.0 #126 GT class, form 577 -

    Porsche 911 S 2000 cat. GT2.0 #127 GT class, form 547
    Porsche 911 S 2000 cat. GT2.0 #128 GT class, form 547
    Porsche 911 S 2000 cat. GT2.0 #129 GT class, form 547

    Porsche 911 S 2000 cat. GT2.0 #130 GT class, form 547

    Porsche 911 S 2000 cat. GT2.0 #131 GT class, form 547
    Porsche 911 S 2000 cat. GT2.0 #132 GT class, form 547



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