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    Need help to identify a SWB

    Hi guys,

    I'm in the market for a SWB to build myself a R-Replica.

    So yesterday I inspected a car in the Stuttgart area close to the Porsche factory. Seller is a 65 year old man who owns the car for more than 10 years now. There is no history of the car known. Full German documents come with the car as well as new TÜV.

    The car itself is a SWB with a 2.2T engine and a 915 tranny. But the VIN (911 3 500 932) identifys the car as a 1973 Coupe 2.4 911T/V (can someone tell me for what the "V" is standing for). The first thing I thought was that someone cutted out the VIN number of a 1973 model and welded in place on the SWB model. But why should someone doing this? Also there are no weldings or manipulations around the VIN area visible. It's a clean and straight car and would make a good base to start from. But not sure if I should buy it, as it sounds pretty strange to have a SWB car built in 1973.

    What are your opinions?

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    The V stands for Vergaser (sp?). Carberated instead of MFI. Not enough pictures to see what’s really going on but, everything EXCEPT the gauges, seats and the VIN stamping looks SWB. I’d be looking a lot closer, including the production number stamped in the lower dash behind the knee pads. Looks like a ‘68 that has had a front clip grafted. Might be LWB front signals that I see.

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    I´d contact Jochen Bader or someone knowledgeable for a PPI.

    That VIN number stamping gives me the creeps.
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    Here are some more pictures, also from underneath.

    Engine number is 6103 115 and it is from a 1970 911T.

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    Chassis appears to be a 68 912.... Vin is for a European 911 and appears to be Stamped....
    1965 911 Factory Paint to Sample Orange
    1967 911S Bahama Yellow
    1968 911 S Blood Orange
    1971 911S Gold Metallic Peter Gregg
    1974 Carrera RS Blue Metallic
    1990 RUF RCT Estonia's car

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    Wouldn't you think that the VIN stamping looks pretty original and very accurate. See the sample below, also from a 1973. The digits looks original as well as the little stars left and right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1970rsr View Post
    Chassis appears to be a 68 912.... Vin is for a European 911 and appears to be Stamped....
    Why do you think it was a 912?

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    Door Handles.... Dash and gauges. Check the engine bay and see if you can see where the 912 Engine mounts were removed....
    1965 911 Factory Paint to Sample Orange
    1967 911S Bahama Yellow
    1968 911 S Blood Orange
    1971 911S Gold Metallic Peter Gregg
    1974 Carrera RS Blue Metallic
    1990 RUF RCT Estonia's car

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    Dash cover point to a pre-68 car with a removable top dash like on 65-67s - Gauges not sure - Mirror certainly look like the big Durant that appeared on 68 models (not sure why someone would have put a screw through the mirror and the door though), same for the door handles. Long horn grilles is for SWB. Can't really see the door card pockets, but also look like from a 68.
    LIkely a car pieced together..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8erpope View Post
    Why do you think it was a 912?
    because the benefit ($$$ wise) of converting a 912swb into a 911 is bigger than converting a 911 swb into a 911...

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