What weight did the ST Repsol brothers have?

[_gonbau]

another pic 2.2s
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Eladio accident.

https://misporschesaescala.blogspot....36247873928379

Chassis 49 can be stored in a garage? Or am I confused about something?

[moito]

i was told by Nikolas that the engine of #49 was taken out after the crash and later put in #51 ..where it still is today

[_gonbau]

Eladio had an accident with a twin S / T. The 49? Why do the photos shown do not match those of the Repsol car? Why did you change the 51 engine for the 49 if the 51 was fine? And case, where did the 51 engine end? Thank you very much for your reply!

[_gonbau]

as explained in the text above the documents My understanding is they were identical twin cars and the error is in the build book - someone forgot to write in "Rallye 930kg" not that there were differences between the cars

in which document can you see this? I have the documents that the previous seller showed, the kardex and the sheet, but is there any document from Porsche with which we can ensure that these vehicles came with large engines and lowered weight? Official document? Or are they just shown?

[HughH]

the extract you showed in post #1 was from the build book - showing vin numbers 9110301148 through to 9110301151. Hand written against 1149 is Rallye 930kg - for the lightened shells. The other car (1151) is supposed to be identical but someone forgot to write that into the build book - not unusual that there is something left out in these documents

Then there is a kardex for 1151 as well as an extract from its build sheet. the handwriting on the kardex in the top RH corner signifies that it has had the engine spec enhanced at werk1 before delivery - as most if not all proper st's did. This is also shown in the build sheet just under the "CO1 EUROPA LL in handwriting where the name and number of the work order dated 22.1.70 that specifies the extra engine modification bits for the ST's which these and other ST build sheets have on them

[_gonbau]

the extract you showed in post #1 was from the build book - showing vin numbers 9110301148 through to 9110301151. Hand written against 1149 is Rallye 930kg - for the lightened shells. The other car (1151) is supposed to be identical but someone forgot to write that into the build book - not unusual that there is something left out in these documents

Then there is a kardex for 1151 as well as an extract from its build sheet. the handwriting on the kardex in the top RH corner signifies that it has had the engine spec enhanced at werk1 before delivery - as most if not all proper st's did. This is also shown in the build sheet just under the "CO1 EUROPA LL in handwriting where the name and number of the work order dated 22.1.70 that specifies the extra engine modification bits for the ST's which these and other ST build sheets have on them

Thanks, as always it is a pleasure that you detail this type of information! Does the kardex of 49 exist? It must exist in the registry? Someday we will see it ... Regarding the accident of Eladio and the ST, I have nothing left to say what I think.
S / T 49 may still exist.
Anyone have any ideas or rumors why the cars don't match?
Are we clear about the following facts?
Eladio had the accident in oviedo in '72 with an S / T? That is what the Porsche says in its articles where they talk about these vehicles. I am missing something that I am not able to understand.

[fourteenten]

Hey Baudett,

Do you have more info on that Seeblsu RS?

Regards, Cees

[_gonbau]

the photos correspond to a classic motor article. This vehicle does not have photos in the Tenerife group since it did not circulate through its streets!


According to the classic cars page of my island, it was registered by a relative residing on the island to be able to register it in Spain. I don't get to set foot on the island.




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The vehicle in the Spanish application that anyone can consult is listed as 911 Rs imported on 5/16/1973, its chassis is 9113600800 and there is a loss due to traffic in 2016. I think that in 2016 I left Spain in foreign hands. It is registered with a displacement of 2687 fiscal CV 18.75. There are more photos if you find them of interest I can look for it or you can go to the group or search by registration!

According to the words of the people of Tenerife, 3 arrived in total, this was the only one that did not step on the Tenerife roads. We speak in the context that in Spain in those years it was not possible to import but the Canary Islands were free of it.
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there is one more photo of the vehicle in 2010 running a rally!

http://mercadoclasico.autopista.es/



as a curious fact, another of the RS that are on this island of the 2, is the VIn 900 .... I think
*chassis 038 was the other one imported by Matias Molina and this information comes from the aforementioned group of classic cars!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/3865...epa=SEARCH_BOX

[fourteenten]

Great, thanks!

Cees

[HughH]

Hello Baudett
a build sheet for 1149 will exist. I dont think it is anywhere on the public record though and it would be very hard to access it from Porsche.

i have lots of pictures of Porches in the Spanish and Catalan rallies in the early 70's as well as a lot of information on the rally results and some entrants in 1970, 71 and 72. However it is very hard to make it all fit together. There were between 8 and 20 rallies each year in that area and they are not well documented. My information is from official rallye records, various forums the repsol wiki that covers them as well as the EWRC results online (which for some reason seem to be the most inaccurate) there is a lot of contradictions in the information as well as lot of gaps in many sources. Most frustrating is that many of the photos I have seen on line seem to be mislabeled as well although that could in part be because some rallies were known by more than one name and there are big gaps. For example one source said that Pavon crashed Reverter's 911R at the rallye de Orsense in 1970 and another says it was in 1971 at that rallye.

On the Doncel car #2 at the IX Rallye Ciudad de Oviedo in September 1972 I THINK that it had been registered with French plates 1736 CX 33 since earlier that year. I have photos of it purporting to be at the Firestone rally in March 1972 with those plates as well as one supposed to be at the 1972 Costa de Sol with start number 1 (It cant have been as it was destroyed by then but it may have been at the rallye Costa Brava in February although I cant be sure that Doncel was there but it has different sign-writing to the Firestone rally including "Sopral" on front hood instead of the repsol logo and a centre fill )

However it is very unclear as to the exact circumstances. I am almost certain however that it was 1149 that was destroyed at that time. During 1972 1151 was also transferred to Lencina - I am not sure when but he certainly had it at the rally Del Sherry in September. Given that was after Doncel's accident in the other car maybe he got both engines in the deal. Maybe you could ask Lencina directy

Thanks, as always it is a pleasure that you detail this type of information! Does the kardex of 49 exist? It must exist in the registry? Someday we will see it ... Regarding the accident of Eladio and the ST, I have nothing left to say what I think.
S / T 49 may still exist.
Anyone have any ideas or rumors why the cars don't match?
Are we clear about the following facts?
Eladio had the accident in oviedo in '72 with an S / T? That is what the Porsche says in its articles where they talk about these vehicles. I am missing something that I am not able to understand.