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    List of 1968 Sports Purposes 911S, L and T/Rs

    Here’s a list of the factory built or modified 1968 model year competition cars that I’ve pulled together based on the threads in this registry and internet searches. Cars were included in this list if they were built with the Rallye-kit or Sport Kit I or II. I don’t claim to have any specialized knowledge on these cars, just an interest in better understanding the different configurations of 1968 competition cars. Please send me any corrections, changes or additions and I will update this list.

    Thanks,
    Eric

    Serial Number—Engine Number—Transmission Number—Date Completed (DD-MM-YY)--Equipment

    911S with Rallye Kit or Sport Kit
    11800184 4080204 4280202 28-Aug-67 Sport Kit
    11800208 4080192 9282005 23-Sep-67 Rallye-kit, Sport Kit II
    11800224 4080191 9282004 22-Sep-67 Rallye-kit, Sport-kit II, VW Pacific
    11800234 4080261 4280265 25-Sep-67 Sport Kit, R-spec body panels 12/1968
    11800265 4080315 ---------- 27-Oct-67 Sport Kit II, LSD, delivery AMAG, Schweiz
    11800363 4080433 4280420 03-Nov-67 Rallye-Ausrüstung
    11800440 4080522 4280636 05-Dec-67 Sport Kit II, Rallye kit, delivery Autogerma Bolognia
    118_____ ---------- ---------- ----------- Sport Kit II, LSD, Autogerma Bolognia
    11800988 4081209 2281212 ----------- 906/911R, sport kit II
    11801199 4081475 ---------- __-Jul-68 Sport Kit II (dealer installed), airport gear box

    911L with Rallye Kit 901/30 engine – 13 of possibly 28 identified by Thomas Lundeval
    11810177 3880003 9282006 22-Sep-67 Sport Kit II, Rally Kit, missing engine and transmission
    11810429 3880008 9282101 09-Feb-68 Rally Kit, Sport Kit
    11810438 3880005 9281006 24-Jan-68 Rally utrustning
    11810439 3880006 9282015 24-Jan-68 Rallye-Ausrüstung
    11810449 3880007 9284031 26-Feb-68 Rallye-kit, Sport-kit
    11810482 3880010 9282016 15-Mar-68
    11810486 3880009 9282017 ----------
    11810508 ---------- ---------- 01-Aug-69
    11810514 3880016 ---------- ----------
    11810540 3880019 9281101 11-Apr-68
    11810604 3880025 9284104 20-May-68
    11810620 3880026 3282292 28-May-68 Rallye-Ausrüstung, Sport Kit I
    11810705 3880027 ---------- 16-Aug-68

    911T with Rally Kit and 911S Engine, 911T/R
    11820421 4080524 ---------- __-Dec-67
    11820422 ---------- ---------- ----------
    11820427 ---------- ---------- ----------
    11820433 4080618 4280601 31-Dec-67
    11820455 4080581 9282010 12-Jan-68
    11820472 4080588 4280577 31-Dec-67
    11820505 ---------- ---------- ----------
    11820639 2080660 9289014 20-Feb-68 911TH
    11820702 4080931 ---------- 20-Mar-68
    11820719 4080970 9283006 20-Mar-68 Rally Kit, Fa. Krauss
    11820721 4080921 9282018 18-Mar-68 Rally Kit, Strähle KG
    11820765 4081017 2280826 29-Mar-68
    11820779 4080987 9289020 31-Jul-68
    11820780 4081043 ---------- ----------
    11820791 4081013 9281012 05-Apr-68
    11820805 4080916 9282020 26-Apr-68
    11820807 4081042 9284035 04-Apr-68 Equipment Rallye, Sonauto
    11820809 ---------- ---------- __-Apr-68
    11820828 4081110 9284101 24-Apr-68 RHD, Margulies
    11820834 4081092 ---------- -----------
    11820835 4081121 ---------- ----------- Sport Kit II
    11820884 4081283 9284105 01-Nov-67 RHD, 911S Rallye-kit
    11820897 4081453 ---------- ----------- RHD (a 911R spec car but with steel panels)
    11820912 4081479 9281103 04-Jul-68 RHD, Rallye-kit

    911T Karmann with 911S engine unconfirmed
    11825233 2081145 2881079 22-Apr-68 Gr 5 equipment installed at factory ‘69
    11825414 ---------- ---------- ----------- Genta


    Sources
    All of the 911L 901/30 information comes from the excellent thread by Thomas Lundeval. It is included to provide a complete picture of all 1968 competition cars.

    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...0-Racing-Rally

    Most of the remainder of the information was found in the following threads and links.

    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...ght=rallye-kit
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...ght=rallye-kit
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...light=sportkit
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...cars-1965-1972
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...ght=118.1.0429
    https://www.racingsportscars.com/suf.../911/T__R.html
    https://pbase.com/archive_racing_por...r_factory_cars
    http://tech-racingcars.wikidot.com/porsche-911-t

    The March 1967 brochure "For the Competition Driver" was posted in the thread:

    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...sories-Catalog

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    A pdf of the 1968 version of “Information Regarding Porsche Vehicles used for Sports Purposes” can be found here:

    https://www.butzisquared.com/wp-cont...ition-1968.pdf

    I've also included a summary here.

    Here are links to the FIA homologation forms 503, 547, 577, 578 and 579 covering the 1968 models

    https://historicdb.fia.com/car/porsche-911-0
    https://historicdb.fia.com/car/porsche-911-s-1
    https://historicdb.fia.com/car/porsche-911-t-0
    https://historicdb.fia.com/car/porsche-911-l-targa
    https://historicdb.fia.com/car/porsche-911-s-targa

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    Hi Eric
    Great list
    here are my additions in Red
    I think that they are all correct but always willing to hear of any discrepencies
    I checked the numbers you had recorded and my database agrees with what you have


    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Gratz View Post
    Here’s a list of the factory built or modified 1968 model year competition cars that I’ve pulled together based on the threads in this registry and internet searches. Cars were included in this list if they were built with the Rallye-kit or Sport Kit I or II. I don’t claim to have any specialized knowledge on these cars, just an interest in better understanding the different configurations of 1968 competition cars. Please send me any corrections, changes or additions and I will update this list.

    Thanks,
    Eric

    Serial Number—Engine Number—Transmission Number—Date Completed (MM/DD/YY)--Equipment

    911S with Rallye Kit or Sport Kit
    11800184 4080204 4280202 08/28/67 Sport Kit
    11800208 4080192 9282005 09/23/67 Rallye-kit 911S
    11800234 4080261 4280265 09/25/67 Sport Kit, R-spec body panels 12/1968
    11800363 4080433 4280420 11/03/67 Rallye-Ausrüstung
    11800988 4081209 2281212 ---------- 906/911R, sport kit II

    911L with Rallye Kit 901/30 engine – 13 of possibly 28 identified by Thomas Lundevall
    11810177 3880003 9282006 09/22/67
    11810429 3880008 9282101 ---------- Rally Kit, Sport Kit
    11810438 3880005 9281006 01/24/68 Rally utrustning
    11810439 3880006 ---------- 01/24/68
    11810449 3880007 9284031 02/26/68
    11810482 3880010 9282016 03/15/68
    11810486 3880009 9282017 ----------
    11810508 ---------- ---------- 08/01/69
    11810514 3880016 ---------- ----------
    11810540 3880019 9281101 04/11/68
    18810604 3880025 9284104 05/20/68
    11810620 3880026 3282292 05/28/68 Rallye-Ausrüstung
    18810705 3880027 ---------- 08/16/68

    911T with Rally Kit and 911S Engine, 911T/R
    11820421 4080524 ---------- 12/67
    11820422 ---------- ---------- ----------
    11820427 ---------- ---------- ----------
    11820433 4080618 4280601 31/12/67
    11820455 4080581 9282010 12/01/68
    11820472 4080588 4280577 31/12/67
    11820505 ---------- ---------- ----------
    11820639 2080660 9289014 ---------- 911TH
    11820702 4080931 ---------- 20/03/68
    11820721 4080921 ---------- ----------
    11820765 4081017 2280826 29/03/68
    11820779 4080987 9289020 07/68
    11820780 4081043 ---------- ----------
    11800791 4081013 9281012 5/04/68
    11820805 4080916 9282020 ----------
    11820807 4081042 9284035 04/04/68 Equipment Rallye, Sonauto
    11820809 ---------- ---------- ----------
    11820828 4081110 9284101 ---------- RHD
    11820834 4081092 ---------- ----------
    11820835 4081121 --------- ---------- Sport Kit II
    11820884 4081283 9284105 1/11/67 RHD, 911S Rallye-kit
    11820897 4081453 --------- ---------- RHD (a 911R spec car but with steel panels)
    11820912 4081479 9281103 07/04/68 RHD, Rallye-kit

    911T Karmann with 911S engine unconfirmed
    11825233 2081145 2881079 22/04/68 Gr 5 equipment installed at factory ‘69
    11825414 ---------- ---------- ----------


    Sources
    All of the 911L 901/30 information comes from the excellent thread by Thomas Lundevall. It is included to provide a complete picture of all 1968 competition cars.

    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...0-Racing-Rally

    Most of the remainder of the information was found in the following threads and links.

    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...ght=rallye-kit
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...ght=rallye-kit
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...light=sportkit
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...cars-1965-1972
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...ght=118.1.0429
    https://www.racingsportscars.com/suf.../911/T__R.html
    https://pbase.com/archive_racing_por...r_factory_cars
    http://tech-racingcars.wikidot.com/porsche-911-t

    A pdf of the 1968 version of “Information Regarding Porsche Vehicles used for Sports Purposes” can be found here:

    https://www.butzisquared.com/wp-cont...ition-1968.pdf
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    Hugh,

    Thanks for all of the additions. I'll get my list updated with this information.

    Do you have any idea on the total number of T/Rs that were completed? There is a big difference between the number of 911S coupes and targas built versus the number of S engines (408xxxx) and S sporto engines (418xxxx) produced if the final numbers in all of these series are representative of what was actually built. The former is 1267+442=1709 and the latter is 1547+227=1774.

    Thanks,
    Eric
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    There is always a significant excess of engines over chassis.
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    no I don't think anyone does know exactly how many. it would be possible (if access was granted by the factory - which is unlikely) to go through every 1968 T kardex and look for S engines and other signs of a competition car - but even that would not be definitive as they could have been retrospectively built by the factory on an ordinary T
    They always make more engines than cars to provide spares but if there were 20 to 25 T/R's that would eat enough into the "surplus engines" to leave a small balance for spares (and extra race engines etc)
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    Hi Eric,

    Superb list.
    Here my addition in blue.
    Sorry, I will not list my car numbers (1968 911S with Sport Kit II). I've seen too many duplicates or newborn cars around the world.....

    Best
    Claudius

    911S with Rallye Kit or Sport Kit
    11800184 4080204 4280202 08/28/67 Sport Kit
    11800208 4080192 9282005 09/23/67 Rallye-kit 911S
    11800234 4080261 4280265 09/25/67 Sport Kit, R-spec body panels 12/1968
    11800265 4080315------------10/27/67 Sport Kit II, LSD, delivery AMAG, Switzerland
    11800363 4080433 4280420 11/03/67 Rallye-Ausrüstung
    11800440 4080522 4280636 12/05/67 Sport Kit II, Rallye kit, delivery Autogerma Bolognia, Italy
    118---------------------------------Sport Kit II, LSD, Autogerma Bolognia, Italy, my car
    11800988 4081209 2281212 ---------- 906/911R, sport kit II


    911L with Rallye Kit 901/30 engine – 13 of possibly 28 identified by Thomas Lundevall
    11810177 3880003 9282006 09/22/67 SKII, Rally Kit, missing engine and transmission
    11810429 3880008 9282101 ---------- Rally Kit, Sport Kit
    11810438 3880005 9281006 01/24/68 Rally utrustning
    11810439 3880006 ---------- 01/24/68
    11810449 3880007 9284031 02/26/68
    11810482 3880010 9282016 03/15/68
    11810486 3880009 9282017 ----------
    11810508 ---------- ---------- 08/01/69
    11810514 3880016 ---------- ----------
    11810540 3880019 9281101 04/11/68
    18810604 3880025 9284104 05/20/68
    11810620 3880026 3282292 05/28/68 Rallye-Ausrüstung
    18810705 3880027 ---------- 08/16/68

    911T with Rally Kit and 911S Engine, 911T/R
    11820421 4080524 ---------- 12/67
    11820422 ---------- ---------- ----------
    11820427 ---------- ---------- ----------
    11820433 4080618 4280601 31/12/67
    11820455 4080581 9282010 12/01/68
    11820472 4080588 4280577 31/12/67
    11820505 ---------- ---------- ----------
    11820639 2080660 9289014 ---------- 911TH
    11820702 4080931 ---------- 20/03/68
    11820721 4080921 ---------- ----------
    11820765 4081017 2280826 29/03/68
    11820779 4080987 9289020 07/68
    11820780 4081043 ---------- ----------
    11800791 4081013 9281012 5/04/68
    11820805 4080916 9282020 ----------
    11820807 4081042 9284035 04/04/68 Equipment Rallye, Sonauto
    11820809 ---------- ---------- ----------
    11820828 4081110 9284101 ---------- RHD
    11820834 4081092 ---------- ----------
    11820835 4081121 --------- ---------- Sport Kit II
    11820884 4081283 9284105 1/11/67 RHD, 911S Rallye-kit
    11820897 4081453 --------- ---------- RHD (a 911R spec car but with steel panels)
    11820912 4081479 9281103 07/04/68 RHD, Rallye-kit

    911T Karmann with 911S engine unconfirmed
    11825233 2081145 2881079 22/04/68 Gr 5 equipment installed at factory ‘69
    11825414 ---------- ---------- ----------
    Last edited by 68S_SK2; 11-06-2020 at 01:03 AM.

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    Claudius,

    Thanks for providing the additional information on the 911S coupes equipped with the Sports Kit II. It is interesting that all of the iisted production dates fall in the 1967 calendar year.

    Regards,
    Eric

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    hi Eric

    is this possibly an S with a sport kit? https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...light=11801199
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    Hugh,

    That looks was used for sports purposes since new. It has factory installed competition equipment and dealer installed Sport Kit according to the owner. I will add it to the list.

    Eric

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    Hi Guys,

    Shall we add the Hart Ski T/R? I show it as 11820889.
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