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    Define "Vintage"

    I'll get things started...

    Those people who spend at least a minimal amount of time in the antique trade understand that the term “vintage” generally applies to items that are not quite old enough to be classified as an antique. In other words, some people will adopt a mindset that believes that if something is old, but not old enough to be classified as antique, it must be considered “vintage.” While this is possible, it is not necessarily true. It is possible for an item to be “old” and be neither, antique or vintage.

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    By definition, 1980 it is considered vintage. Vintage means any stuff that is at least 20 years old. This year, all 1980 things are already 40 years old which is double the minimum age for a thing to be called vintage. ... Anything 20 years of age is considered vintage.

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    The 90s are now officially classified as Vintage because we are two decades on and a new generation is starting to discover and enjoy the creative fruits of musicians, designers, artists and film makers who delivered their ideas 20 years ago.

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    An item should be at least 100 years old to be defined as an antique. Generally speaking if the item is no older than an antique but not less than 20 years, it falls under the term vintage.


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    Not exactly as clear as defining Pi. Vintage does not appear to be a rigorously defined term. I could be wrong. Maybe it all depends on context. But it seems pretty squishy. What do you think?

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    That’s what I’ve always understood, a rolling 20yr for vintage. “Antique” is the more abused I think.
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    John -- You should do a series. Next you can break down "patina" ---- then my favorite of all time --- "solid".

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    Define "Vintage"

    Older than John Audette...

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    After patina and solid maybe the word “early”.

    Thanks

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    Ok, I will bite.
    Based on the above posts this is how I see it.

    ANTIQUE
    Image 11-04-21 at 8.04 AM (1).jpg

    PATINA
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    VINTAGE
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    Yes she is over 25yrs old.

    Have a great weekend all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFromNY View Post
    Define "Vintage"

    Older than John Audette...
    Older than my clothes.

    Next we will move on to rare.
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    don't leave out "Mint" (I once encountered a seller that insisted his car was mint .... when i pointed out the overspray on the window seals he said "yea. but it is green"

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    Ok having judged in some concours where veteran, vintage, edwardian, post vintage etc. is a defined class corresponding to a defined period of motorcars I see vintage between 1919 and 1931 so completely different from above definition but I might be wrong in the terms of casual common language "vintage". So vintage is to me something that's "at least prewar". And when someone uses "early" on this board post 73 cannot be "early" except in context. Also "early Recaros" can't be 80's since Reutter built seats long before the 80's. So early should be perhaps in the first 15% or 20% of a lifespan.
    But I am as well not a native english speaker so this might add to my misconception of these terms.
    Last edited by uai; 04-10-2021 at 02:28 PM.

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    Way too complicated from the Europeans so,,,
    I'm just going to call everything pertaining to Porsche pre 74 the same as I call myself.
    Not being one to be Pigeon Holed, Stamped, Filed or Indexed I will settle with

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