Kremer bare tubs from the factory

[_gonbau]

Kremer had access to unpainted chassis/ bare tubs from the factory?In that case, does not paint mean without corrosive paint? How did the porsche deliver the chassis to kremer? With what paint bases?

[davep]

Everyone had access, they were the replacement bodies. Up to about 1969 there was a replacement series 13xxx, and the factory sued several for the 911 prototypes. However the series was originally for 356 replacement bodies. Then in 1969 with the new format Production #s a leading 0 (instead of 1) showed it was a replacement. Thus you see many Kremer with a serial in the form of 00x00yy where x was the year and 00yy was the serial #. Race cars were easier and cheaper to build from a "body in white" since you did not have to pay for unnecessary parts, nor to strip back down to a bare shell to begin. Normally the replacement was paint to order.

[_gonbau]

Everyone had access, they were the replacement bodies. Up to about 1969 there was a replacement series 13xxx, and the factory sued several for the 911 prototypes. However the series was originally for 356 replacement bodies. Then in 1969 with the new format Production #s a leading 0 (instead of 1) showed it was a replacement. Thus you see many Kremer with a serial in the form of 00x00yy where x was the year and 00yy was the serial #. Race cars were easier and cheaper to build from a "body in white" since you did not have to pay for unnecessary parts, nor to strip back down to a bare shell to begin. Normally the replacement was paint to order.

in some comment I had read that Kremer had a special "connection" with porsche. I thought Kremer vehicles were something other than replacement carcasses! So did Kremer prepare his vehicles with replacement carcasses? Why are there Kremer vehicles that carry 2 "vin" and other Kremer vehicles that carry only the vin of an S **T for example?So, I must understand as a spare casing, a body without "wheels", engine, transmission ", crystals, suspensions, etc ...? Only the metal?
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I correct: Two vin = a in VIn different

[Bobs 67S]

In the parts manual in the RS section (Repair Sets) (vintage 1967) are listings for 20 different part numbers for body options of replacement bodies. Up to Full bodies including seats for the different styles, Coupe, Targa, 911S, 911L, 911T. If you check the parts manual for 1971/72/73 you can verify the options offered for those years.

The parts manual says: "The Body shells are provided with doors and front and rear hoods, they are prime coated and sound-proof." Replacement Shell Coupe, Replacement Body Targa.

That is commonly termed "Body in White"

In Kremer history - they were a repair shop, servicing and replacing parts with connections to purchase parts via normal channels ether thru distributors or directly with the Porsche company. They later came to be known to supply other racers with Porsche parts that the factory would only sell to a limited group of customers. Having raced for Porsche - as Daniel Patrascu wrote "the Moby Dick 935, it had Porsche’s backing when it was made, with the carmaker supplying the team with the drawings, parts, and even the Moby Dick car itself to use as an inspiration."

That sounds like Kremer had a factory connection.

From the differing serial number schemes used, both factory and Kremer, it was street cars converted to race cars along with factory "body in white" cars.