kommissionsnummer

[_gonbau]

kommit number without prefix starting with 51. Model year 73.


what is model country?

Observing the construction of 9113600314, you can see the prefix in the kommit on its sheet. It can be "interpreted" and I think... the prefix of this vehicle is 112? And model country 112 according to the book?
Those two questions... what would be the country model that appears in that book and does anyone have the 314 build sheet in good resolution?

WHAT IS THE ZH JMP-NR?

"112 Hamburg 13 Raffay + Co Kraftwagen-Handelsges m.b.H."
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...r-Dealer-Codes
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So, would dealer 112 get a book "51"? model 73
So, would the factory be entitled to a "52" book? model 73
so the HAHN dealer would be entitled to a "53" book? model72
but.... Why would the other cars sold in the country have other lower numbers?
should the kommit prefix be called "ZH JMP-NR"?

[davep]

The other thing to remember about the handlers is that:
111 Eduard Winter
112 Raffay & Co. Kraftwagen-Händelsges.m.b.H
113 Gottfried W. Schultz
114 Otto Glöckler Automobil-Verkaufsges.m.b.H
115 Hahn Automobilgroßhändel GmbH
116 MAHAG-Goßhändel Haberl KG
were all regional distributors that managed a network of some 50 dealers in each of their territories. So the commission # could include a code for the actual dealer within the network; this may take two digits.

The ZH is the handler, so 112 is Raffay

[_gonbau]

The other thing to remember about the handlers is that:
111 Eduard Winter
112 Raffay & Co. Kraftwagen-Händelsges.m.b.H
113 Gottfried W. Schultz
114 Otto Glöckler Automobil-Verkaufsges.m.b.H
115 Hahn Automobilgroßhändel GmbH
116 MAHAG-Goßhändel Haberl KG
were all regional distributors that managed a network of some 50 dealers in each of their territories. So the commission # could include a code for the actual dealer within the network; this may take two digits.

The ZH is the handler, so 112 is Raffay

noob question....but what about Max Morizt?
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Would you think that the two numbers at the beginning of the Kommit (not the prefix) could be those numbers that you indicate? and then sequential numbering?
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what does JMP mean?

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It is understood that for national deliveries... there was a 6**-digit number (5 as indicated by Huhg) For deliveries outside the country the kommit is 5 digits... 5, what can it indicate in national orders?
nothing to do with this right?
ignore this paragraph. I said it and noticed something wrong. All kommits have 6 numbers.
but I think that 5 has to do with deliveries within the country...

Yes as Dave says the "country code" is (almost always) where the car is ordered from and where it will end up. In road cars, as opposed to the rally car ST you have posted above, it would also inform what country specific options would need to be installed to comply with the rules in that country. It does not mean that it was automatically delivered there. As Dave says there were various options on delivery including factory pick up and pick up at other places for "tourist delivery".
0 car waxed – stock Germany sold
1 car unwaxed – stock Germany sold

2 car waxed – pickup
3 car unwaxed – pickup

4 car waxed export shipping
5 car unwaxed – delivered to importer ex factory
6 car unwaxed -tourist delivery outside factory
7 car waxed -tourist delivery outside factory
8 car not waxed – air freight
9 reserved

Little relation to the matter but there were ex-factory vehicles delivered to different distributors 112? 113? etc? Or did they just come from the factory?

[_gonbau]

Here I show two different sheets.
One of them is called "rechnung invoice-facture"
The other is called NEWAGEN.
In the rechnung invoice the Kommit number is observed in the newagen it is not observed.
1. What difference exists in these documents so that the same data is not referenced and more importantly.
2. What is the prefix 099? Distributor is WV?

what does **MDL-Kommi mean**? division?**
mdl kommit would be the subdivision of the concessionaire in the Hahn case correct? Therefore we could say that the Number kommit only names the "mother" dealer but there are documents where MDL is named that coincided in the case of hahn with his distributor 002.
what would be the kommi number in the case of the ST delivered in HAHN? 115?

[_gonbau]

Is there any union between the kommit number and the delivery? Being "together" the data here... Would they have to do with each other? Why rename the kommit number at the bottom?

[_gonbau]

and more examples...


Is there 5 in the kommit in any vehicle that is for export? in the kommitnumber**yes.stupid question.
once we clarify if the 5 has to do with the German national market or not, maybe we can try to find the next point but examples are missing... In my case, examples of deliveries in HAHN are missing (I think there are several vehicles in this forum)"some more important than another...." If we manage to rule out 5, perhaps the rest of the numbers can be related, but I have been looking at documents for new Porsches... in that case, I think they are clearly sequential... but in these old ones?



in the case of my vehicle delivered to Hahn. What would be my versandart? I don't understand the difference between waxed or not. Waxing means giving wax protection to the vehicle?
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The versandart of 9113600314 is 5.
I think I know because of this: If I take the example from the previous pages and put it in a translucent layer... We don't see the versandart* of 314 but we do see the phrase that accompanies it. According to me... it fits perfectly in the size and shape of the sentence:fahrzeug nicht konserviert XXXXX/Export Selbstabhclun

original:
Are there more examples of vehicles that have versandart 5 and can we see their kommitnumber?
Does anyone have more examples of Ex-factory vehicles...?

[_gonbau]

7 figures in the kommit number
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...e-Book-numbers

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the komm for the RS according to starkey began with 31? Maybe I should ask him...maybe I should tell him if he wants to participate here...I'll try.

https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...highlight=komm

"but then chassis' 0019 and 0020 have commission numbers: 400 001 and 400 002. After this, the numbers for 0021 and all after revert to the 310 000 series."

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"Thanks for the follow up. I was curious about this so I pulled out the copy of the Production/Conversion order that Konradsheim sent me for my RS (451). The Komm. Nr. for my RS is SZ 031331, I assume for Switzerland where this car was delivered. It is typed on both the Production and Conversion forms. Certainly off-topic for this thread though."
If any owner is bothered by the images I can delete them! But they have been obtained mostly from posts on this forum!

https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...highlight=komm

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another?

https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...highlight=komm
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924

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...27453-241-1926

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1973...Komm 113 05X186
what is that X?

"One of just 55 RSRs constructed for the 1973 season, chassis no. 9113600756 was completed in February of that year in a striking yellow color carrying engine nr 6930114 and gearbox nr 7931024. It was immediately entered into the 12 Hours of Sebring in March by new owner Grey Egerton of Costa Mesa, California. Entered by Far West Racing, and with sponsorship from Pharr Yarns, Castrol, and Cibie, Egerton was partnered with SCCA and Trans Am rising star Elliot Forbes-Robinson, who had shown such promise at Le Mans in 1971 after qualifying his 911 S fastest of all the GT class Porsche cars."
https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/110581/1973-porsche-911-carrera-28-rsr---chassis-911
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...1973-rsr/page3

Being a "versuch" engine... Perhaps the X has to do with the coding with the engine and should I name something related to it there?
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is that....a handwritten SP inscription....?

Sp.... Is it LSD...?

Is it time to open a more specific post about this vehicle?
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sonderg........sonderg?....sonderg???
.....hohespiegel fahrerseite dl....

Which engine is more special? The one from 9113300781 or the one from 9113600756

If these 55 vehicles were a circulation of vehicles made by Porsche....Shouldn't they be attached to a programm?

"Factory options include: 220 Limited Slip Differential, Special Gear Ratios & Black Lettering."
Sonderg=Special Gear Ratios?
http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/10408/index.html

would someone have the buildsheet of 9113600755/9113600782/9113600784/9113600791/9113600817...
https://books.google.es/books?id=1_M...che%22&f=false

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ç

this sheet always accompanies the builtsheet? There are options that are not named in the build. All vehicles have a sheet similar to this? Why are options named here that are not in the buildsheet...?

[_gonbau]

https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...-Delivery-No-1

[_gonbau]

ummm maybe an unanswered question but... because the porsche tells me the following regarding my Kommitnummber when I ask where that number comes from:
The document names the invoice number: 530104. Is this number correct? It is the first time that I have evidence of this data. I don´t know the source there I don´t know the source as well. Is not in our Archiv Data.

How is it possible, that being "the initial number" before the other numbers and being present in my build sheet... They say that it does not come from the file and
What is not in your data source? What am I missing?

[_gonbau]

What does ZH mean in this image taken from this forum? I thought it was referring to the seller, and it does in other cases... But I didn't know these "seller" names... Any information?




1033649 *911*3600436 6630468 112 520105 5
1033628 911*3600445 6630472 EG 520170 4
1033626 *911*3600447 6630471 EG 520176 4
1033624 *911*3600412 6630436 EG 520179 4

I've been looking at kommit 52xxxxx. I see that several come from EG. Does anyone know what it means?
a sequence can be observed in those Kommit numbers.
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You can see the sequential kommit in these two vehicles next to the chassis number, sequential in this case, as well as the production number. The only thing that differs in not being sequential is the engine in this case.