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    FS: @Mecum - 1967 911 rs?

    Never heard of a 1967 RS.
    Below is all copied from Mecum website:

    LOT S94 MONTEREY 2016 AUG 18-20
    1967 PORSCHE 911 DELUXE RS
    1 of 253 Built, Certificate of Authenticity

    Mecum Auctions
    LOT S94 MONTEREY 2016 AUG 18-20
    1967 PORSCHE 911 DELUXE RS
    1 of 253 Built, Certificate of Authenticity STAR

    RETURN TO LOT LIST
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    Color
    Light Ivory
    Interior
    Black
    VIN/Serial
    304769
    ESTIMATE
    $275,000 - $325,000
    HIGHLIGHTS
    Serial no. 304769
    Matching-numbers engine no. 907962
    One of 253 original 911 Deluxe RS models
    European configuration
    72,000 kilometers
    New bearings, piston rings and seals
    Rebuilt carburetors
    Reconditioned transmission
    911S ratio transaxle gears
    Light Ivory exterior
    Kunstil Schwartz Pepita interior
    Original interior except for new headliner
    Wood dash
    Webasto heater
    Sunroof
    Detailed underbody
    Kardex
    Porsche Certificate of Authenticity
    STUTTGART INSPECTED COMMUNITY windshield sticker
    $175,000 in restoration receipts
    Beginning June of 1966, Porsche began to develop the exclusive 911 Deluxe RS examples that are rarely known of today, even by the most knowledgeable marque enthusiasts. Porsche utilized 253 previously completed wood dash, Webasto heater cars, chassis numbered 304703-304955 that were removed from available current sales inventory.

    Porsche then issued RS Ex. 13/66 the Rundschreiben pertaining to the 13/66 bulletin instructing the factory technicians of the changes that should be made to the 253 cars, creating the new model to be offered. This new model the 1967 Porsche 911 Deluxe RS would accompany the new base configuration 911 along with a sporty new 911S.

    The factory Kardex build sheet for chassis 304769 verifies this car as one of the 911 Deluxe RS models in European configuration with matching original motor number 907962. The Ivory color combined with Kunstil Schwartz Pepita interior and sunroof all additionally verified on the Porsche Certificate of Authenticity accompanying the car. The hand-written notes on the Kardex show this car was then singled out of the 253 cars for additional internal desired modifications.

    The changes from its original configuration were for further factory use from 7-19-66 through 11-10-66 with 7,600 kilometers were accumulated. The modifications to this car included the transaxle gears being changed to the new 911S ratio. The original engine block received the S crankshaft and S rods marked and pulled from the best weight matched produced parts available from the top 5 percent of production. Model year 1967 S piston and cylinders with the smaller second ring allowed for higher compression, while 67 S heads with the larger ports and 1 mm larger valves, 67 S cams, forged rocker arms and the 67 S IDS Webers with the secondary accelerator pump included. Resulting in nearly 200 horsepower with a high state of tune from the race bred nature of Porsche's soul.

    The body received enlarged rear wheel arches to test wider offset wheel and tire combinations and came with wheel spacers and extended studs for increasing the rear track. This was a common procedure with factory trial cars in the workshop prior to and continuing at this time as development of the R model was soon to come and momentum was building toward the desired RS model's creation. With all of the modifications completed and the 7,600 kilometers of testing run, the predecessor to the first Porsche RS was styled by these design changes.

    The car with all the technical innovations installed and tested was delivered to the handler as the last factory service correspondence between the handler Hahn Porsche dealership of Stuttgart and factory from the 7,600 kilometers recorded at intake on 9-9-66 service date through the 12-31-66 factory visit with 15,640 kilometers recorded. That represents 8,000 additional kilometers accrued in this short time while demonstrating the Porsche possibilities to prospective buyers through the Hahn of Stuttgart Porsche dealership. Visitors to the Porsche factory were directed to Hahn of Suttgart for an introduction of available models that could be experienced from the driver's seat. Porsche's considerable modifications and use of this car from its inception process clearly shows some of the beginnings in the thought processes involved surrounding future models made available to the public for sale.

    The unique history associated with this chassis leaves a fine example thought to be one of one and very unique among the 911 Deluxe RS cars built. This car has received a sympathetic and meticulous restoration by a respected marque specialist with $175,000 spent over the last two years. The numbers-matching engine was disassembled and deemed to be in excellent condition with only new bearings, piston rings and seals being replaced. Meanwhile, carburetors were rebuilt to proper specifications and the transmission has been reconditioned with new synchros, a clutch, pressure plate and flywheel replacement. The original interior, with the exception of the new headliner, has remained untouched and reflects the honesty and pristine condition of this car, notice the original seats. The body is laser straight with uniform gaps and flawless paint application. The underside is detailed with all four corner suspension being restored after being completely removed. Notice the extremely rare original 4-headlamp screw European light configuration restored to as-new and matching the four corner European lens display.

    This is an opportunity to own a first-generation RS, one that is an ultra-rare, highly optioned, historically significant and Kardex-documented car. This beauty achieved exceptional use in its first months of completion has today only 72,000 original kilometers currently. The sticker on the windshield reads ”STUTTGART INSPECTED COMMUNITY”— and is original to the car.
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    Here is the link.
    I don't know how to get the pictures.

    https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0816-24...2464-112449889
    Clarke
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    Street: 05 997S Launch, 75 911S Gemini Blue 3.0L, 68 912

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    There is a very long thread here about the "leftover" 1966's that became the "deLuxe".

    If you look for it you will see a lot of 66 details like a wood dash and some other stuff with a '67 911 badge. Mecum is playing a game. There isn't too much special about this particular car other than the fact that Porsche had to empty out the old parts bin before moving on to the next model year.
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    and iirc, the RS in the "deluxe RS' stood for Rundschreiben. As in letter. And god that has to be the most overblown description ever. And any hint of the 2.7 carrera RS as far back as 1966 is total bs. I bet the engineers were busy enough trying to think of a LWB.


    Then to top it off, the Kardex has no mention of a sunroof but the COA does?!

    But a nice looking 66.
    Last edited by Jules Dielen; 08-09-2016 at 01:11 PM.

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    FS: @MECUM Auctions Monterey - 1967 911 'Deluxe RS' Coupe

    Still looking for a home . . .
    Other threads/posts on this car:
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ghlight=304769
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ghlight=304769
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l=1#post882335
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    MECUM 2017 Monterey Auction, Hyatt Regency Monterey Hotel and Spa - Del Monte Golf Course, August 16-19, 2017
    1967 Porsche 2.0L 911 "Deluxe RS' Coupe, Lot S96
    VIN: 304769
    Engine: 907962
    Trans: 231576 (902/1)
    Color: Light Ivory/Black Leatherette Peptia Inserts
    Mileage: ~72,000km (indicated)
    Auction Estimate: US$200,000 - $235,000
    Sold for: NO SALE (Highest Bid: US$170,000 - "The Bid goes on . . .")

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    Auction Description:

    Beginning in June of 1966, Porsche began to develop the exclusive 911 Deluxe RS examples that are rarely known of today, even by the most knowledgeable marque enthusiasts. Porsche utilized 253 previously completed wood-dash, Webasto-heater cars—chassis numbers 304703-304955—that had been removed from available sales inventory. Porsche then issued RS Ex. 13/66, the bulletin that instructed factory technicians of the changes to be made to the 253 cars that would create the new model to be offered: the 1967 Porsche 911 Deluxe RS.

    The factory Kardex build sheet for Serial No. 304769 verifies this car as one of the 1967 Porsche 911 Deluxe RS models produced in European configuration, and it retains its matching-numbers engine, Engine No. 907962. The Ivory color combined with a Kunstil Schwartz Pepita interior and sunroof are all additionally verified on the Porsche Certificate of Authenticity accompanying the car. The hand-written notes on the Kardex show this car was even singled out of from 253 cars for additional desired internal modifications.

    The changes from its original configuration were for further factory use from July 19, 1966, through November 10, 1966. The modifications to this car included the transaxle gears being changed to the new 911S ratio. The original engine block received the S crankshaft and S rods, marked and pulled from the best weight-matched produced parts available from the top 5 percent of production. Model-year 1967 S piston and cylinders with the smaller second ring allowed for higher compression, while ‘67 S heads with larger ports and 1-mm larger valves, ‘67 S cams, forged rocker arms and the ‘67 S IDS Webers with the secondary accelerator pump included, which combined, resulted in nearly 200 HP with a high state of tune from the race-bred nature of Porsche's soul.

    The body received enlarged rear wheel arches to test wider offset wheel-and-tire combinations, and it came with wheel spacers and extended studs for increasing the rear track. This was a common procedure with factory trial cars in the workshop, both prior to and continuing at this time, as development of the R model was soon to come and momentum was building toward the desired RS model's creation. With all of the modifications completed and 7,600 kilometers of testing run, the predecessor to the first Porsche RS was styled by these design changes.

    The unique history associated with this chassis leaves a fine example thought to be one-of-one and very unique among the 911 Deluxe RS cars built. This car received a sympathetic and meticulous restoration by a respected marque specialist that cost $175,000. The numbers-matching engine was disassembled and deemed to be in excellent condition with only new bearings, piston rings and seals being replaced. Meanwhile, carburetors were rebuilt to proper specifications and the transmission reconditioned with new synchros, a clutch, pressure plate and flywheel replacement. The original interior, with the exception of the new headliner, has remained untouched and reflects the honesty and pristine condition of this car, including the original seats. The body is laser straight with uniform gaps and flawless paint application. The underside is detailed and the suspension was restored after being completely removed. This Porsche features the original 4-headlamp screw European light configuration restored to as-new and matches the four-corner European lens display.

    This is an opportunity to own a first-generation RS, one that is an ultra-rare, highly optioned, historically significant and Kardex-documented car. This beauty achieved exceptional use in its first months of completion, and has today accumulated only 72,000 original kilometers. The sticker on the windshield reads “STUTTGART INSPECTED COMMUNITY,” and is original to the car.
    Last edited by DOUGS73E; 08-22-2017 at 01:41 PM. Reason: Added sold for price.
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    Absolutely the wrong venue to sell an early 911 at. Mecum is a carnival/circus there are no serious Porsche people at their auctions only clowns, jugglers and magicians. The only advantage I see is Mecum does not know these cars so very creative descriptions are allowed.
    Last edited by mfitton; 08-02-2017 at 01:15 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mfitton View Post
    Mecum is a carnival/circus there are no serious Porsche people.
    Perhaps that is the reason why it IS exactly there. Any serious Porsche person would laugh at this description and it takes a clown, juggler AND magician to play together and drive the price up to anywhere close to their estimate?

    The STUTTGART INSPECTED COMMUNITY sticker is is original to the car, priceless.

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    Interesting thing about the Kardex is that the bit which so many say "verifies" it as being called Deluxe RS seems odd in the first place.

    Not only looks like it was added at a later date, but based on the style of handwriting and wording almost certainly not written by a German hand.

    I'm a US expat in Germany and have had many a mixup regarding handwritten number "1" when I first moved here years ago!

    Sorry if digging up old dirt but didn't see anyone else mention this!

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    No Sale @ $170k per Sat. PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mfitton View Post
    Absolutely the wrong venue to sell an early 911 at. Mecum is a carnival/circus there are no serious Porsche people at their auctions only clowns, jugglers and magicians. The only advantage I see is Mecum does not know these cars so very creative descriptions are allowed.

    From the same guys that sold a '65 Corvette as a '67 and got away with it.
    Auction "contracts" favor the house. If there is a problem it's on the buyer.
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