Convert LWB U.S. Turn Signal Housings to Euro Housings

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From a 1969 RHD (119100286, with Rechnung on 14/5/69 - per Kardex)
Hopefully this helps to narrow the dates ...

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(sorry for the awful paint ....)

ps these are John's bulbs ... !

[jaudette3]

Thanks Paul. Are these traces of white paint on there? Is there absolute certainty that the assembly is original to the car? I'm very surprised that the drain hole is toward the back. I heard somewhere is that the early versions had the drain hole near the front and then it was moved toward the back later. It doesn't get much earlier than your car.

The goal is to definitively determine the specs of the LWB turn signals and what specs corresponded to what models and what years. Here are the variables:

• position of the drain hole: 1 for front, 2 for back
• color of the interior of the housing: A for white, B for silver
• Euro or U.S. versions: E for Euro, U for U.S.
• position of the city light bulb: 2 possibilities
• year of the car: 5 possibilities
• model of the car: 3 possibilities

So total number of combinations is 240. But we can eliminate the city light position as we have identified that, so that leaves 120 combinations.

A simplified way to get started is to determine assembly combinations, then we relate them to years and models. We have three configuration variables with two options each, so we have eight possibilities (2x2x2):

1-A-E i.e. front drain hole, white interior, Euro delivery, etc
1-A-U
1-B-E
1-B-U
2-A-E
2-A-U
2-B-E
2-B-U

With enough samples we should be able to figure this out. My speculation is that white or silver depended on Euro or U.S. because of DOT, so silver with U.S. cars and white with RoW.

Love this stuff.

Thanks,
John
John Audette
www.911bestinclass.com

[Cliff]

This set came from a 70/71? ( the left fender has the plastic tank bracket ). White & silver. cliff

I also, have a set of nos frt & rear. I’ll look for them and see how those ( USA ) were manufactured.

Running out of time. I suspect the left is the same.

[jaudette3]

OK. 70-71 U.S. with white interior and hole in the back.

Our first data point, a 2.2 (T,E,S?) / 2-A-U

So much for no white in the U.S.

Thanks Cliff.

[70SATMan]

OK. 70-71 U.S. with white interior and hole in the back.

Our first data point, a 2.2 (T,E,S?) / 2-A-U

So much for no white in the U.S.

Thanks Cliff.

No, IMO that is a primer that is under the plating. The alum has just worn away. I've seen that on several sets I've had over the years. As for the hole moving in front buckets?? Only seen that on the rear buckets.

Even the late '73 Euro with the additional running light reflector was silver I believe. I don't recall seeing any of them actually in white. Now, the rear signals,,, Yeah I've seen white starting again in '73 IIRC.

Need to be careful creating these 'data points' because pictures can create illusions that can only be discounted through real first person observation.

[jaudette3]

Thanks Michael. Digging away.

I just checked five that I have on hand, (3) U.S., (1) Italian/U.S. and (1) Euro. All with holes in the back. All bead blasted so no hint of original color.

[Cliff]

No, IMO that is a primer that is under the plating. The alum has just worn away. I've seen that on several sets I've had over the years. As for the hole moving in front buckets?? Only seen that on the rear buckets.

Even the late '73 Euro with the additional running light reflector was silver I believe. I don't recall seeing any of them actually in white. Now, the rear signals,,, Yeah I've seen white starting again in '73 IIRC.

Need to be careful creating these 'data points' because pictures can create illusions that can only be discounted through real first person observation.

On the two I posted, it looks to me that the white is a primer/epoxy to fill the pores, making a better surface for a smoothe shinny finish.

[jaudette3]

We are going to be featuring project ideas from time to time. The first one is the LWB U.S. to Euro turn signal conversion discussed in this thread. To help things along we are also featuring the AC Conversion Kit as a 4D Daily Deeply Discounted Deal. You will find it on the AC Shop Home Page.

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Have fun!

Cheers,
John