Fahrzeug typ 911/39 had serial number 303328 and versuch noted on its Kardex.
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...=1#post1104733
Fahrzeug typ 911/39 had serial number 303328 and versuch noted on its Kardex.
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...=1#post1104733
Eric
that seems to confirm that the numbers on that original document are "stock numbers" probably for the financial accounts but they do not Mirror the Vin number. Much like the stock numbers in later years that start with a C D E F etc to reflect the model year then a number to show the asset number for that year
the question then is did these start at 1 each year - like in later years or are just cumulative until the other system came in - I would bet on cumulative as stock (company car) number 39 in 1966 sound much more like the 39th from the start of the 911's rather than the 39th company car in 1966
Hugh Hodges
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This document from another factory road trip in January 1968 references Wagen 83 and Wagen 84, both 911T models. The purpose of the trip was to test winter tires.
It does seem that these early factory cars could have received sequential identification numbers as Hugh has suggested.
@stephen…
we still need to see the complete doc, so maybe we can track down the event and else..
@eric and @hugh
super test document and
yes, cumulative factory car park manager ID system - interesting would be to see, what is written on the kardex
so far there are
sept 65
911/20
911/25
912/15
may 66
911/39 303 328
jan 68
911/83 T manual
911/84 T sporto
59 750 pre unit triton
63 650 gray silver bikinitub triumph thunderbird
70 650 astralred silver triumph bonneville
65 912 slate gray "erwin"
73 914 ravennagreen "ferdl"
erwin_loves_polo
Yes and all the competition cars and sales department cars ( including demo cars press cars and cars for photos etc) would be on that list. Not sure if there would be two lists ( 911/Xx and 912/xx ) or just one. I suspect two lists.
I will try to pull together a list of known works cars over that period to see how many there.
Hugh Hodges
73 911E
Melbourne Australia
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Here are tables of known and suspected Werks SWB cars. This information was pulled from a number of sources including the ESR threads on Versuch Cars and Photos of Cars with Factory Plates.
The first table lists prototypes have been well documented elsewhere.
The second table lists cars with "Company Asset" or Fahrzeug numbers of the form 901/xx, 911/xx, 902/xx, etc. that are not well understood. Two of these cars have been identified by serial number, the remainder have not.
The third table is a catch all for all remaining cars that are known to be Werks cars or might be Werks cars since they have Stuttgart license plates.
Prototypes
Model SN License plate 901 prototype 1 901/1 13321 S-CU 902 901 prototype 2 901/2 13322 S-04324 901 prototype 3 901/3 13323 S-SK 725 901 prototype 4 901/4 13324 S-SK 726 901 prototype 5 901/5 13325 S-TC 1 901 prototype 6 901/6 13326 LB-U 911 901 prototype 7 901/7 13327 S-SX 564 901 prototype 8 901/8 13328 S-TV 112 901 prototype 9 901/9 13329 S-UE 87 912 prototype 10 901/10 13330 S-UP 935 912 prototype 11 13352 S-UP 934 targa prototype 1 13360 912 prototype 13394 rhd 912 proto 13366 targa prototype 2 13396 912 13415 S-US 912
Fahrzeug numbers
Model SN License plate 901/3 300003 S-UN 100 901/8 901/9 911/20 911/25 911/39 303328 911/83 911T 911/84 911T sporto-matic 912/15
Werks and Stuttgart Plates
Model SN License plate 911 S-HN 901 911 S-PS 430 S-SR 201 911 S-TC 901 911 S-TS 333 S-UL 837 901 proto 12 / pre-series 300001 S-UN 478 901 proto 13 / pre-series 300002 S-UN 476 901/3 300003 S-UN 100 901 300005 S-UN 764 1965 911 rallye proto R1 300055 S-UV 333 912 S-UV 500? 1965 911 300330 S-UX 911 911 targa press/show car S-VD 35 S-VE 912 912 S-VM 92 S-VX 884 911 S-WD 333 S-WX 405 S-WX 406 302736? S-WX 407 1966 911 rallye proto R2 303075 S-WX 449 1966 911 rallye proto R3 303076 S-WX 450 1966 911 rallye proto R4 303085 S-WX 451 911 S-WX 911 911/39 303328 versuch 303330 versuch 303331
Last edited by Eric Gratz; 08-17-2023 at 04:14 PM. Reason: Split out original table by grouping
I still do miss identification of S-HN 901
59 750 pre unit triton
63 650 gray silver bikinitub triumph thunderbird
70 650 astralred silver triumph bonneville
65 912 slate gray "erwin"
73 914 ravennagreen "ferdl"
erwin_loves_polo
Great job so far Eric - beat me to it
However I am pretty sure that the way they number "company assets" will have been slightly different
I think each vehicle type will have its own prefix ie 911/xx 912/xx 904/xx 906/xx etc
This is partly because it would seem to be the rational thing to do in an asset ledger (so you knew what type of cars were there behind the number as well as approx value) but also because I found this as I started to go through my database
it clearly identifies 300 003 as Ferry Porsche's car S-UN 100 but also as asset number 901/3 and mentions two other cars 901/8 and 901/9
I cant work out what those two cars are but I think that this will be a more accurate way of describing each company owned / used cars and race cars although I suspect a full and proper list will be impossible to create as it is unlikely to be the type of data that was kept beyond the time required for company and tax records
Hugh Hodges
73 911E
Melbourne Australia
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Australian TYP901 Register Inc.
Early S Registry #776
The tables on my earlier post have been updated to include 901/3, 901/8 and 901/9 identified by Hugh as additional cars with "company asset" numbers. The single table has also been split up to make a distinction between the prototype cars and these "company asset" cars.