Phil
I think E's are even harder to find that S's.
They were fewer of them built so are almost more collectable that an S !
I've had a short trip in one and they are excellent - the S only gets away on top end - for road use the E is probably better - more grunt.
But its not an S!.....
There is a 'third way'.
Buy a 1972/3 T with 5 speed gearbox for £10k. Then locate a 2.7RS engine for £5k. Put them together, spend another £2-3k on suspension modifications and bobs your uncle. You have a car that looks like a standard T, but is as fast as any normally aspirated standard 911 currently on the road. You will waste money over buying a mint 911E or S, but if you really get into these early 911's you will be spending a lot of money over the years anyway !
Phil,
I sort of guess that this isn't what you're looking for, but the other day I was driving past a garage close to where I live and there was a RS replica sitting on the forecourt. Well it turns out it wasn't for sale at the garage, but it was owned by a chap whose son worked there. Anyway we got chatting and it seems that he's looking to sell it, around £15k. It's a 1970 (I think, so originally a 2.2), RHD, 2.7 engine on MFI producing some astronomical output - but the down side is that its pretty much a full-blown racer, fibreglass panels, etc, not particularly wonderful panel fit and so on. He's down in Dorset and I have his contact name, address & email if you're interested.
Cheers
John
I have started thinking about RS replica's, for example :
1973 PORSCHE 911 2.7RS LHD CARRERA Replica, white with blue script, correct 2.7 RS engine just rebuilt by Francis Tuthill, very authentic £14,995
www.tittyhomotorco.com
They seem to be a lot better value than the standard 'original' E's and S's. My major problem with these cars though, is the wife. She wants the classic look and it wouldn't be a good idea to go against her (especially as she's financing the majority of this purchase - thanks darling).
I suppose I could go doen QCAR's way of putting various components together . . . but I don't think I could cope with the hassle.
In response to Tom (from Amsterdam). I've heard the VSOC are great to deal with (mainly from Andy Richardson - see comments). They did e-mail me details of a couple of S's, one of which was within my budget, and looked great. Problem is, passport has just expired (everything seems to conspire against me). I've sent off for a new one, so when it arrives I'll be considering a trip over. I'd be interested to know of any other sources of cars, also someone who I can trust to do a pre-purchase inspection.
The woman selling the black 2.2S 1970, called me yesterday (see original post). Think she'd be willing to do a deal around (£12-£13K) - people are telling me this is too much for a car without matching numbers, and not in tip top condition. Anyone got any further thoughts on this particular car?
Thanks for the help guys, Phil
That looks VERRRRY nice. If it's rust-free, mechanically sorted and RHD, sounds like a bargain. Let me guess....your wife doesn't like the "Carrera" script down the side....too much like a boy-racer? Funny, isn't it, how that script can mean so much to a 911 owner, but to the rest of the world makes you look just a little bit silly?
Are you guys talking Euro's for the 70S?
No, pounds. Sorry. Makes quite a difference.
I'm getting all confused . . . not sure this isn't 'off topic' considering this is an 'S' forum, but I've stumbled across a good 'T' and now I'm thinking that I might, just might be able to live with the loss of power (note yesterday I was considering an RS replica). Deatils as follows:
-PCA have confirmed the car was delivered to Nevada. Unfortunately there is no other history of the cars life in the states, the owner has tried, but to no avail (the person who imported it has since moved to South Africa).
-Imported to the UK 1995, he bought it 1997 (from Specialist Cars of Maldon), at which point he had the underside waxoyled (spelling?). Seems very, very confident there's no rust. Claims it's used only in the summer, and garaged all other times.
- Claims there's no impact damage.
- '5 speed dog leg, comfort pack (head rests, tinted windows etc), original radio, fuchs wheels'.
- Matching numbers
- Original colour - jet black - he had the front bonnet respayed ('had a couple of stone chips - rather than mess about, had the whole thing stripped and resprayed - perfect match')
- Runs on Zenith carbs, he had hydraulic chain tensioner fitted at Cant speed.
- Interior - new(ish) carpets, he's retrimmed one of the seats (basket weave vinyl), a few cracks on the dash top.
- When I asked about the 'top end' he said ' there's a puff of smoke at start up, if the car has been standing for a long time'. He's taken advice on this, and claims the advice was to live with it - i.e. no a sign of anything major.
- If you've got 911 and Porsche world mag - it's features in issue No 44 - it's near concours condition.
Seems like a genuine guy - someone who knows the car and has looked after it.
He wants £11,000 for it, whereas the only descent sounding 'S' I can find is a brown 2.4 at Tower cars for £19,500. If the two are equal in terms of condition, body and mechanically, is £8,500 worth the added kudos, excitement and experience.
Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, before I buy a skoda
So 11,000 pounds ( we don't have that lil' key on our US keyboards)...is that $18,260.00 US dollars for a "T" ?? If you're inferring you can't find a decent S for that, keep trying. They're around someplace ( probably USA). However, if it's the T so be it. I would mention, that after a short honeymoon with your T, you'll say to yourself, " for $XX.00, I could have had a S". Take your time and try not to be impulsive, above all, think ahead to after the "honeymoon".
good luck Phil...thanks for inquiry on my 73E
It sounds excellent, from the description. These are the sort of figures that I was told about a couple of years ago when I was looking - about £11k for a near-perfect 911T, up to £20k for a similar "S". I guess this is LHD.
Mine smokes on startup as well, sometimes quite badly (small mushroom cloud over the village). However it uses very little oil while running - about 5 litres in 6,000 miles, and the number of threads on the chat forums seems to indicate that smoking on startup is nothing to worry about.
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