Page 1 of 11 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 107

Thread: 911R prototypes

  1. #1

    911R prototypes

    This subject popped up in another thread. According to Paternie's little red book there were 3 911R prototypes based on 67 cars, 307670/1 and 305876, the rest had 68 VINs:
    Nick Moss - Early 911S #476 - RGruppe #318 - early911.co.uk

  2. #2
    If memory serves, the "silver weenie" was a '67...pretty rare bird indeed. It raced in the '67 (I think) Sebring race, Gary Wright at the wheel... Alan Johnson won in a sister car...I might be off on the year, but remember Gary telling me of a fading engine costing him the race, later backed up by reading a letter written by Terry B., who managed Porsche Cars Northwest...I'll post the pic again here...I think these cars deserve a seperate thread...
    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Paul D. Early S Registry #8 - Cyclops Minister of West Coast Affairs
    "Now, to put a water-cooled engine in the rear and to have the radiator in the front, that's not very intelligent." -Ferry Porsche (PANO, Oct. 1973)

  3. #3
    Senior Member Homemade 911's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    China Lake - Third Rock From The Sun
    Posts
    940
    PWD72 (et al):

    Was this "silver weenie" an all-steel car?

    If not... how much of it (bumpers, hood, etc) was fiberglass?? I'm just curious as to the mix of fiberglass and steel on this obviously a "non-911R" configuration. How about the engine...any specs available?

    A related question to all: Were the early "rally" cars all steel as well? how about any fiberglass/steel mix on those?

    cheers
    Thom Kuby

  4. #4
    All the later Porsche rally cars I have seen were all steel (they needed to be for strength). The 1969 Tour de Corse (which was more of a race) 911R was a lightweight car. These had GRP front wings, bumpers, top and bottom of dashboard, tail light assemblies, front lid and engine cover. Some doors were GRP, some aluminium.
    Nick Moss - Early 911S #476 - RGruppe #318 - early911.co.uk

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    2,694
    There were actually 4 prototypes built in addition to the 20 'production' models.

    I have personally witnessed the ground-up restoration of prototype #3 & have provided Ernie Wilberg with detailed pictures of both prototypes #3 & #4 for display on his excellent website:

    http://www.pbase.com/911r

    I'm sure it won't be long before Ernie chimes in here...
    Andy

    Early 911S Reg #753
    R Gruppe #105

  6. #6
    As far as I know, the silver weenie was all steel. But as it's race carreer went on, things "evolved"...as race cars tend to do. For example, I believe that is 2.0 engine "evolved" into a 2.5 by the time it ran it's last race...also, I don't think the term "prototype" was used when it was built, but could be wrong here..
    Paul D. Early S Registry #8 - Cyclops Minister of West Coast Affairs
    "Now, to put a water-cooled engine in the rear and to have the radiator in the front, that's not very intelligent." -Ferry Porsche (PANO, Oct. 1973)

  7. #7
    Time Bandit Jens's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    vahmont
    Posts
    4,159

    Cool

    Excerpt from some book on my shelf-
    Attached Images Attached Images  

    Zitronengelb R1012 the RatBasterd
    RGruppe #183

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Dallas, TX
    Posts
    372
    Were any of the "R"s converted to "S"s?

    My old mechanic in Miami said he bought one from Brumos in the late 60s and it had started off as a race car and then converted to an S. I never saw the car, but I remember him telling me about it. I think he passed away in the last 10 years.
    Neil
    '73 911S targa

  9. #9
    Time Bandit Jens's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    vahmont
    Posts
    4,159
    here's another obscurity-
    Attached Images Attached Images  

    Zitronengelb R1012 the RatBasterd
    RGruppe #183

  10. #10
    Time Bandit Jens's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    vahmont
    Posts
    4,159
    Again, scanned from my bookshelves. I don't know if the word "prototype" is the term ze engineers at ze fectory used to describe the experimental lightweight precursers to the O-ficial 911R. But they did exist-
    Attached Images Attached Images  

    Zitronengelb R1012 the RatBasterd
    RGruppe #183

Similar Threads

  1. Another 911R!
    By WDNoon in forum General Info
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 10-16-2006, 07:17 AM
  2. 911R fuchs (911R 7Jx15)
    By 72targa in forum For Sale: 911 Parts
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-20-2005, 08:23 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Message Board Disclaimer and Terms of Use
This is a public forum. Messages posted here can be viewed by the public. The Early 911S Registry is not responsible for messages posted in its online forums, and any message will express the views of the author and not the Early 911S Registry. Use of online forums shall constitute the agreement of the user not to post anything of religious or political content, false and defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise to violate the law and the further agreement of the user to be solely responsible for and hold the Early 911S Registry harmless in the event of any claim based on their message. Any viewer who finds a message objectionable should contact us immediately by email. The Early 911S Registry has the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary.