I ordered a kardex 6 weeks ago, how looong does it take?
I ordered a kardex 6 weeks ago, how looong does it take?
60 356 Roadster Race Car - ex Dick Barbour
60 356 Roadster Race Car - Emory Outlaw
63 Porsche Powered Special Race Car
67 911S Stock
67 911S Race Car - ARRC '69 & '71, Daytona 24 '75
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The first time I got one I sent a check and it took about six weeks or more..........the last time I gave a credit card # and it came back in two or three weeks.
Real Kardex or lame "Certificate of Authenticity"?
Mine C of A was a total waste of money.
Sandy Isaac
'69 911E
#543
I will have to proclaim my ignorance because I thought the two were the same............but come to think of it - mine are fairly lame as well.The only instructions I ever got were the PCA north america program. What's the real deal?
As far as I'm aware, there is no source for an actual kardex for an early 911 now. But Porsche makes it seem like their C of A is a kardex when you order it. Then it arrives with this stupid disclaimer letter that what you've purchased may not have the complete info on your car. And then you look at this piece of paper you've wasted $100 on and smack yourself in the forehead with your best Homer, "D-oh!"
Sandy Isaac
'69 911E
#543
guys;
some general observations; (...going from memory) originally there were *3* Kardex catalogs. one was the actual 'build sheet', another was used by the service department for waranty purposes. don't ask me what the 3rd was (?) the 'waranty' Kardex is the only one that survived and that may well have been by accident. Porsche never thought any of this information would have any importance once the cars were a certain age. little did they know ;-) when Ilse Nadel was the international 'club' liason ('80s), she would send xerox copies of the "Kardex", with the original owners name and contact info blanked out due to German privacy laws, upon simple request. eventually they had to require proof of ownership due to unscrupulous activity.
the waranty Kardex is sometimes incomplete. the original COA's were free. then they were $30... finally, what ?? $125 ? the last one i ordered was in '93 for an original owner '66 912 w/ the 3-instrument dash. i got; original color, engine and transmission numbers. that's it. i was hoping to at least get some idea of build date on a 3-guage car. nothin' doin'. i've got at least 2 more cars i'd like to have some information about, but @ that price, count me out. is all lost ? not sure. i hear rumors that a certain party in Switzerland knows someone in the archive dept. and has occassion to get copies of the "Kardex". of course, if that party is Olaf Lang, that connection no longer exists.
once upon a time in the not too distant past i held 'Book #1' from the service dept. in my hands. a hand written pencil ledger of waranty work dating back to the earliest days in Zuffenhausen. i am not a religious man, but...
this one will make it to the Porsche museum where it belongs.
HTH
cheers
jerry
Never bothered to get one. You see, some time before the current BS, I sent a letter off to 42 Porschestrauss, (sp?) giving the VIN, when & where I bought the car, etc. In due time, I received a letter from the factory, telling me when my car was made, it's optional equipment, it's color, engine number, etc. Since it's "only" a letter from the factory, and since PCA now requires a "kardex" to enter a pea-raid concours... Well, suffice it to say my final Parade entry was in 1978... (NOT kidding here...I'd rather visit a proctologist than go to one of today's pea-raids)
Paul D. Early S Registry #8 - Cyclops Minister of West Coast Affairs
"Now, to put a water-cooled engine in the rear and to have the radiator in the front, that's not very intelligent." -Ferry Porsche (PANO, Oct. 1973)
The warranty cards that Jerry refers to are still there, they are on a CD and most likely that is what is used for the COA.
Richard
be a considered a "build sheet" I have been told that it is. Sorry, I could only get it to fit at a 90 degree. Shawn.
67 coupe roller
99 M96 2.5 litre
early911s reg 447
R Gruppe 399