Please talk this guy out of hacking up his 1971 911S

[kenikh]

He want so cut it to pieces and make an ST replica. I think he'll regret it. I beg you all to share some experience and wisdom with him. Here's his post on Pelican stating his intents:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showt...22#post1904922

Friends don't let friends cut an 'S' body up and replace it with carbon fiber...

[sithot]

Makes the survivors more valuable. Let 'er rip.

Tom

[pwd72s]

Makes the survivors more valuable. Let 'er rip.

Tom

Tom, it's a pleasure to read the thoughts of like minded people...Paul

[Turbo Dave]

That's it? A fellow early S lover posts for some support to prevent one of the rapidly disappearing original cars to be saved, and all he gets is two flip answers? Or are you both serious, you only care about your own cars? I hope (and sincerely doubt) that that's not the case.

[Bobboloo]

It is the guys car and who are we to try and stop him. I advised him against it if for no other reason than he would be throwing away $20k that he'll never see again. He could sell his car to finance the project but he seems set on it.

His feelings are that if it's done right he can get big money if he decides to sell. It's true that some RS replicas, for example, bring big money when they are done right, but whether the car started as a T or S is pretty irrelevant to it's value in RS form.

Anyway I wish luck with his project.

[sithot]

That's it? A fellow early S lover posts for some support to prevent one of the rapidly disappearing original cars to be saved, and all he gets is two flip answers? Or are you both serious, you only care about your own cars? I hope (and sincerely doubt) that that's not the case.

As for "George Barris" over on Pelican; My answer was flip but after reading the posts over there I'm pretty convinced that you are talking to someone (a youngster) who has made up his mind and has set the wheels in motion. His heart is in the right place for even owning a 911 so if he wants to live out a dream let him be. Think "Blink" and then read the book.

FWIW and so far off topic I don't know what to say but "sorry" and here's your useless history lesson for today:

Dave Schultz was the meanest hockey player I ever saw (we're talking about 33-34 years ago which is ancient history for some of you) He was the "enforcer" or our local team. I think he may still hold some records for most minutes in the box. He played here of a now long defunct minor league team before moving on to Philly(NHL). I'll never forget the time a visting team beat up one of our players who was a smallish Foward. Like the movie "Jaws" a large imposing figure slipped from the bench onto the ice and silently stalked his prey and then all hell broke loose. The offending abuser of our small Forward was left in a pile and Dave Schultz was asked to settle into the penalty box.

My apologies for the ramble.

Best,

Tom

[kenikh]

Dave Schultz was the meanest hockey player I ever saw (we're talking about 33-34 years ago which is ancient history for some of you) He was the "enforcer" or our local team. I think he may still hold some records for most minutes in the box. He played here of a now long defunct minor league team before moving on to Philly(NHL). I'll never forget the time a visting team beat up one of our players who was a smallish Foward. Like the movie "Jaws" a large imposing figure slipped from the bench onto the ice and silently stalked his prey and then all hell broke loose. The offending abuser of our small Forward was left in a pile and Dave Schultz was asked to settle into the penalty box.

My apologies for the ramble.

Best,

Tom

That doesn't sound like Dave...who knew?

[Martini&]

Kenikh,
While I have a tad of regret carving up my 1970 911S (matching numbers and second owner) I have to point out. While great cars, the early S is not on par with a Bugatti Royale Coupe de ville, a Ferrari TR59, or even other Porsches with actual racing history. They are just great cars.
If these guy wants to enhance his enjoyment with modification..more power to him. I did it. Like I said, I have a little regret but in the end, I'm having much more fun with what I've created.
My car was the subject of 23 articles in European Car magazine as it went from backyard jetsom to POC cup racer (Big Track at Willow Springs = 1.28.4 --not with me behind the wheel, mind you, but at the hands of a pro-driver)
My only request is you ask this guy to wait until my performance book on building a high-performance early 911 comes out in 2006. (selfish plug here).
Again, I understand the hesitation in destroying...or re-formating, an early S, but when they become REALLY valuable, then we will do as the Ferrari people do and rebuild the entire car around a VIN plate.
Best of luck to the guy.
Mitch Rossi

[bobmagyar]

I am bringing my S back from depths of so maybe it all balances out in the end.

I would imagine that if it is desired to return the car the an original S it would be easier to undo an ST conversion then to deal with all the issues that previous owners and 1970's quality body work inflicted onto these cars.

I marvel at the BS that I uncovered with my car.

[kenikh]

Mitch, I'm totally with you. It's his car, he should do as he pleases. I merely got the feeling that he may be doing something without knowing all of the facts on his car. I am totally fine with someone doing something with eyes wide open. I am content that the community gave him the info to now make an informed decision. If the concerned postings result in him being conservative even once in modding his car, I will feel better for it. Every little bit helps.