Color Change How does it Affect Price/Desirability

[boxster03]

All things being equal, how would a color change affect concourse, resale, price etc.

[Chuck Miller]

Boxter,

Not enough information...

- I viewed your previous post ...are you still looking?
- Are you thinking about a car that has had a color change?
- Are you thinking about buying a car you want to change the color of?

Complete color changes are more difficult on different year early cars.

- What year is the car?

We don't know if you're considering a factory period correct color... or if it is already done, was it done right?

And some colors, when done complete and perfectly, are just more desirable then others...

- What color is the car?... and or ... What color do you what it to be?

So much for 'all things being equal'

Sorry, but some of the above might be why there has been no responses.

Cheers and good luck,

[boxster03]

Yes I am still looking, have had no luck finding a nice #2 cond. 911 coupe for a resonable price. Its either been over the top pricing or lack of quality.

My color change question was regarding a 73S that was listed in the PCA mart, it was originally sepi brown and went to white. It was not a car I was interested in after a brief inspection.

Will keep looking, if you hear of anything, T/E/ or S coupes (although S seems to be getting out of my price range - $30ish) prefer silver, black or white pls let me know I would really appreciate it.

Thanks

[JCR]

Generally, a sepia change is seen as a non-sin, may even help resale.
But, the concours folks will definitely poo-poo a color change.

You've probably heard this before, but if you want to seriously do the show circuit, it's best (financially) to buy one already in concours condition. Either a preservation candidate, or one that someone else has re$tored. Bringing even a nice driver to this level will be VERY expensive.

If condition is your primary concern, I'd be looking for a perfect 73.5 CIS T in that price range; preferably with all available S options. They're great cars to drive and have a bit of a rarity factor.

[72targa]

It also depends on what you mean by 'concours'. Local PCA shows can be fun and you'll see some very nice 'drivers' that are in beautiful shape but the judging is not severe. If your goal is to be the Manhattan Trophy winner at Parade, well, then, expect to spend lots of $$$.

[boxster03]

of course I know that for $30k tops I am not going to get a Pebble Beach early 911, nor do I want one. I want to drive the car but would like something that is original in nice #2 condition. I appreciate the suggestion on the 73.5 911T, would be perfect if I could find something. I am not a big ebay person as I really need to see and drive the car (I am old fashion I guess) but think that is part of the fun and a real good way to build knowledge. I suppose if I had the advantage of the euro to the $ and it would all be cheap I could take a chance sight unseen, but I will be patient and if anyone hears of nice car let me know.

thanks

[RandyWebb]

I'd get an E. A good balance of driveability and sportiness w/o the prices of the S nor the agressive cams that may not be what you want in any sort of traffic.

To me, the CIS system is much too sluggish - I've eliminated two of them in cars I've bought.

[SandyI]

I agree with Randy about the E. But I may be biased. My '69 E with MFI runs just as good as any 73.5 T. (Actually better. Thanks, Otto.) And a 70-71 E is one of the best all-around driving early 911's made. My plan was to have a daily L.A. driver that I could also use at Streets of Willow. And frankly the only time I spend any extended time driving over 5500 rpm is at the track. I never considered a T or S but searched and found an E after about 7 months.

[nullh20]

I'm looking at a 2.4e which has had webers retrofitted. I understand that CIS has a bad reputation for poor throttle response (& the physics that cause this) but the E didn't feel worlds better. Actually below about 3500-4000 rpms I think my 3.0 SC has the illusion of having better throttle response- I'm sure this is because of the additional torque. It wasn't until above 5000 rpms that the E seemed to take a distinct advantage.

Anyway I loved the car and am considering it, but wonder how the original MFI would have compared.

[SandyI]

The MFI on my 2.0 makes a HUGE difference. The powerband starts below 3000 and goes to the redline. It's great at the track because I don't need to go to the redline to keep the car in the powerband.