Now that we have done Monterey a few times for the annual R-Gruppe meet, I think we should adhere to our orignal idea that North meets South half way between the two regions, like Cambria or San Luis or Buttonwillow/Bakersfield or some mountian town location like some small mining town in the Sierra's in mid summer. Anything different. I am done with Monterey for now. Chris 70S R-Gruppe #144 /Early S reg