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See attached, raised instead of stamped 911/83 AT case.
Originally Posted by SKM
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See attached, raised instead of stamped 911/83 AT case.
Cole Scrogham
Porsche Restoration
911, 912, 911R, RS, RSR, IROC
I noticed yellow side markers on this car.
https://www.autoscout24.com/offers/p...Id=-1541189847
Was this region specific? I haven't seen other examples with these side reflectors.
not seen these marker lights on a RS of this vintage before
Nick D - Run Flat
1973 RHD 911 Carrera RS #0358 - Fun Car
2016 Cayenne Diesel - Tow Car
2017 Macan S - Better Half's Car
1955 356 Speedster SOLD
1976 911 2.7 SOLD
2006 Cayman S SOLD
2006 Cayenne S SOLD
2008 Carrera S F77 SOLD
2011 Cayenne S TOTALLED (T-Boned but kept us safe)
2015 Macan S SOLD
2015 GT3 - Track Car
2016 Cayenne SOLD
2016 Cayenne GTS TOTALLED (Bloody big deer)
Still looking for 1st Edition Carrera RS book #358.
Life is way too short to drive boring cars.
Not original on any RS. These
Were standard on cars in Germany beginning
Sometime in the 80’s
October 2015 - Silverstone Auction sold for: £410,625/~US$630,206.70
June 2018 - Dorothum Auction, estimated at €420,000, - €540,000/US$494,500 - $635,500
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AutoToyStore GmbH, Starnberg, Germany
1973 2.7L 911 Carrera RS Touring Coupe
VIN: 9113600235
Engine: 6630259
Trans: -
Color: Grand Prix White/Black
Mileage: 58,225 km (indicated)
Price: €550,000/~US$652,700
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Dealer Description:
1972 Porsche 2.7 Carrera RS Coupé * One of the first 500 homologation models *
Color: White (Grand Prix White)
Interior: black synthetic leather with black Perlon cord central stripe
This Carrera RS, chassis # 0235, was built in December 1972 and is therefore one of the 500 homologation models , which were built with extra thin sheet metal in order to reduce the homologation weight as much as possible. It was purchased from MAHAG in Munich, according to the reference work by Dr. Konradsheim (Carrera RS book). The vehicle was ordered with sports seats with headrests, a limited slip differential, heated rear window and 3-point seat belts.
In the course of the 1980s the RS moved to Mönchengladbach where it spent a few years in a collection. In 1990 the car was bought by a collector in Denmark and then restored over 4 years. The vehicle was in collectors' hands in Denmark for 20 years before it found its way back to Germany.
The RS had already suffered engine damage in the first few years and received an exchange housing of the correct type 911/83 from Porsche and provided it with the original engine number from the manufacturer. This engine was put aside and is still unused with the car. The currently installed engine is based on a 911/81 magnesium housing and was specially built for this car.
Furnishing:
Six-cylinder boxer engine with 2.7 liter displacement and 210 hp
5 speed transmission
One of the first 500 homologation models with extra thin sheet metal
Sports seats with headrests
Limited slip differential
Heated rear window
3-point seat belts
Touring package (M472)
15 inch Fuchsfelgen with rim star in the blue color of the decorative stripe on the side
Decorative stripe on the side in blue
Appraisal from 2017 with condition 1-2 and a market value of 650,000 euros
Original engine type 911/83 is included with the vehicle
Motor type 911/81 with magnesium housing is currently installed in the vehicle
Quantity produced: 1,308 911 RS Touring
Odometer reading: 58,225 km
Doug Dill
1973 911E Coupe
PCA #1987109761
Early 911S Registry #548
9113600742
Silverstone auctions, didn’t sell - buy it now for £805,000
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/...54&pn=1&pp=100
SUMMARY
Considered by many to be one of the greatest of all post-war road cars, this gleaming, low-mileage RST is pure collector-quality.
DESCRIPTION
Dating from February 1973, this RS 2.7 (M472) Touring was delivered new in Hong Kong on 07/05/1973
Finished in Tangerine with black leatherette and corduroy trim
Optioned from new with an LSD, seat belts, fog lamps, electric sunroof, tinted glass
With its first owner for 34 years in Hong Kong and subsequently Australia
Shipped to the UK by JD Classics in July 2013 and later purchased by our vendor
£13,500 invested at Clark and Carter prior to the car joining his collection
Our vendor, JD Classics and other marque specialists are of the opinion that the indicated mileage of 12,527 is correct but can't be warranted
The 1973 RS was the Homologation-Series 911 Porsche had to build in order to qualify its pure racing 2.8-litre 911 RSR for Group 5 competition. The FIA mandated that at least 500 examples of the RS were required, so Porsche set to work. Two versions were offered; both based on the 1973 911S 2.4 coupe: the Lightweight/Sport option M471 was the racing-oriented basis for the RSR, while the Touring option, package M472, retained much of the interior trim and features of the standard car. Both differed visually from the 911S with rear quarter panels widened to accept seven-inch Fuchs alloy wheels, and a distinctive fibreglass front bumper with space to install an auxiliary oil radiator if desired. The rear bumper was steel on the Touring coupes and fibreglass on the Lightweights. The engine covers were also fibreglass, reinforced with balsa wood strips, and nearly all RSs sported the iconic "ducktail" spoiler that had been demonstrated in both wind-tunnel and track testing to greatly reduce rear-end lift and thus improve stability at higher speeds. A small number of Touring versions were delivered without the rear spoiler, but most of those were subsequently retrofitted by their owners. The Lightweight RS was fitted with thinner steel body panels, specially-made thinner window glass, and a stripped interior with racing bucket seats.
The heart of the new RS was a new and much more powerful engine. The standard 190hp 2.4 of the 911S was given larger cylinders with 90mm pistons, taking the displacement to a tad under 2.7-litres. The cylinder bores were coated with a new anti-friction material called Nikasil, which had been developed in Porsche's racing department to allow aluminium pistons and cylinders to co-exist. With a compression ratio of 8.5:1 and Bosch mechanical fuel injection, the new engine developed a lusty 210 bhp at 6300 rpm along with 202 foot-pounds of torque at 5100 rpm. The RS retained Porsche's proven Type 915 five-speed manual transaxle and powerful four-wheel disc brakes. The fully-independent suspension featured McPherson struts, longitudinal torsion bars, and an anti-roll bar, while the independent rear suspension used trailing arms with transverse torsion bars, tubular shock absorbers, and an anti-roll bar. This impressive package provided the lucky owner with a car that offered brilliant acceleration (0-60 in 5.5 seconds) and a maximum velocity of 149 mph with excellent stability and road manners.
By his own admission, this 911 Carrera RS 2.7 Touring, WEU 968L, is our vendor's favourite in his entire collection and he has sent us the following notes;
"Within the history file is the originally supplied Owners Handbook, the 2.7 RS Supplement and more remarkably the originally supplied Service booklet. What is most exceptional is the originally supplied leather bound matching Cellular Phone Network booklet. Also, within the history files is a detailed account of the known history of the car. By way of an overview, it was originally delivered to Hong Kong, hence it being a UK C-16 Specification and right-hand drive. It was owned by the first owner, a certain Mr James Wong, for 34 years including taking it with him to Australia when he retired in 2008. The file suggest there were two further owners in Australia, one of which, it appears, was a specialist car dealer who did certain works on the car. Later, in 2013, it would end up in the hands of the 'Classic Throttle Shop' in Sydney. Seemingly, at the time, Mr Derek Hood of JD Classics in Maldon, Essex had an interest in or a relationship with the 'Classic Throttle Shop' and the car was shipped to the UK by JD Classics later in 2013. Before being delivered to our vendor, the car was handed over to Steve and Jamie Clark, the Porsche restorers at Clark & Carter in Cressing, Essex. Steve and Jamie examined, test drove, reported, serviced and arranged whatever was required to ensure it was presented to me, as its new owner, in a first class, exceptional and useable condition. Their invoice totalled £13,513.02.
I acquired the Porsche 2.7 RS Touring, WEU 968L, at a figure well above the then market value on the basis that the mileage indicated of just 12,527 was the total that the car had travelled. Indeed, within the attached letter from JD Classics they say they too had acquired it confident of its exceptionally low mileage. And, the history file suggests it is, indeed, correct. But is it? To me, it does not matter, I have chosen to believe it and approaching 50 years old, the car is a delight to me. The Tangerine is mesmerising, and the condition of the vehicle is exceptional. I always enjoy lifting the bonnet to enjoy the factory originality of the paintwork within the luggage compartment - and within the engine bay."
The paperwork in the car's history file indicates that the mileage in October 2005 was 9,306. The file further shows that when the car was sold to Duncan McKellar (purchased from Mr Wong) in 2008 it was 11,331 and this rose to 12,090 on 30/07/2009. On 30/11/2011 it was listed as 12,336 and in July 2013 we understand the indicated mileage was 12,422. These are documented but what cannot be confirmed is the car's early mileage history.
This truly wonderful RST is rare, ultra-desirable and investment grade quality. It will, undoubtedly, appeal to every Porsche loving and discriminating collector. It will be available to view prior to auction on our designated viewing days but to accommodate any interested parties beforehand an earlier viewing is possible.
SPECIFICATIONS
Lot Number
428
Make
PORSCHE
Model
911
Registration Number
WEU 968L
Chassis Number
9113600746
Engine Number
6630758
Body Colour
Tangerine
Hi folks. reposting here in regards to an RS engine that seems to be tied to a questionable 'duplicate VIN'.
Car did not sell at auction. Bid went up to $840k but seemed to slow down before that and felt like the "house" was trying to get it up above the reserve. Asking price is now listed at $875k
Kind of surprised they didn't just lift the reserve and take the $840k bid. With the buyer's premium they would have been $49k above the current ask, so Gooding would have made that even if they ate the gap between the bid and the reserve. Perhaps the reserve at the time of the time of the auction was higher, and now cooler heads have prevailed. Or in the heat of the moment the house didn't make the decision fast enough. I'm sure it's tough to make these decisions in real time.
And one other option, as was alluded to by mbmcrae- shill bidding is legal below the reserve, so it's possible the $840k bid was not real. That kind of behavior is frowned on and Gooding wouldn't be a house from which I'd expect it, but it is possible.
Jeff Jensen
I agree with you. Seems close enough that the bidder could step up and contact seller... difference isn't a lot. But I have seen bidders lose their desire (or the adrenaline drops) after the live event and they are not willing to spend quite as much on the same car the following day.
And to be clear, I don't know if there was shill bidding going on - often it is not done by the house anyway... but the action leading up to $840k seemed a little reminiscent of other auctions where this stuff goes on. And you are correct, under the reserve the view is "no harm, no foul" even if it attempts to set a post auction price.
The car having a replacement engine that was not disclosed until after information was presented to Gooding likely made people a bit more nervous about the car. But I didn't see the vehicle up close.
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