1973 Carrera RS Cars for Sale

[Pirulero]

The engine number of this yellow Lightweight seems not original but restamped

[boxster03]

no worry - I mean it is only 1MM + euro - if you want original engine block and correct history requires 2MM euro

[Patrick78]

Hi Vipergruen

Do you know at which occasion J Barth did inspect this car ?

[vipergruen]

Hi Vipergruen

Do you know at which occasion J Barth did inspect this car ?

The auction description says that mr. Barth inspected the car in august 2014.
Beside this, I don't know neither the car nor the owner, I only happen to know the first owner

[928cs]

Nice car, but the provenance description is not accurate.
It was in the hands of the first owner not until 2011 but until february 1974, when it was stolen in Milan.
I wonder if it's possible to sell a car that was stolen (and never recovered), even if 40 years ago.

In France at least, if a car is stolen and the owner refund of the value of the car by its insurance, it technically belongs to the insurance company.
If the car is later recovered, the insurance company owns it and can do whatever it wants with it.
That is how a director of the company I'm working into had a Testarossa as "company car".
He was fired later, for others reasons...

But I think that if the owner was not refund, the car still belongs to him, even if recovered years later.

So, in what situation is the first owner of this car, and are the italian laws similar to the french ones?

[LongRanger]

. . . I wonder if it's possible to sell a car that was stolen (and never recovered), even if 40 years ago . . .

. . . thread 'jack, ahead

[vipergruen]

In France at least, if a car is stolen and the owner refund of the value of the car by its insurance, it technically belongs to the insurance company.
If the car is later recovered, the insurance company owns it and can do whatever it wants with it

So, in what situation is the first owner of this car, and are the italian laws similar to the french ones?

I'm not a lawyer, but think that laws regarding this matter should be more or less the same.
The owner was refund by his insurance back then.

[Patrick78]

You are probably right. Would be interesting to know when this car reapearded on the market, and the corresponding status at that moment, etc..... .

What we can see is that RM description is silent on all this, or at least has a different story. Plus the fact that the engine stamping is, how to say ? ... strange may be ..., that not all is perfect for this car at least in comparison of its estimate, leaves one uncomfortable. Will be interesting to see how the market react.

[EdwardLovett]

The auction description says that mr. Barth inspected the car in august 2014.
Beside this, I don't know neither the car nor the owner, I only happen to know the first owner

I am not sure that inspection counts for much nowadays. There are a few questionable reports out there.

[993TT]

Hi,

There seems to be not too many 1974 2.7 Carreras for sale currently.
What would you think is the current going rate for a nice targa?