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    I think we will find that it is 1397
    there were not many Viper green cars delivered to Italy. Only one M472 car was delivered with option 220 (limited slip diff) in May 1973 - #1397 a car with sports seat5s (option 409) as the only other option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 911MRP View Post
    . . . Green M472 Italian car available in February . . .

    http://www.shmooautomotive.co.uk/pro...ring-due-soon/

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    '. . . History since 1988…

    It has an interesting history, we have known the owner and his son for many years. They are friends as well as clients and we are bringing the car to market under contract on their behalf.

    Owned by the current keeper since 1988, he is a high profile figure in the classic car world. Roberto Loi – who is the President of ASi (www.asifed.it). (More details below).
    The car has been used as you will see by the photos in various high profile events by Mr Loi and his family and is a well known car in Italy.

    The car has had 3 previous owners and has paperwork recording their ownership.
    From 74 to 78 Mr Parisi.
    From 78 to 80 Mr Bartorilla
    From 81 to 88 Mr Tasca.
    From 88 to 16 Mr Loi.

    It is an Italian Market car (JV Code) built in May 1973 with LSD and special seats as an option.

    1 of just 79 Viper Green cars built in 1973.

    The car has been repainted 4yrs ago due to age of the original paint. The car has never been ‘restored’ and is original on the interior and frame . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by HughH View Post
    I think we will find that it is 1397
    there were not many Viper green cars delivered to Italy. Only one M472 car was delivered with option 220 (limited slip diff) in May 1973 - #1397 a car with sports seat5s (option 409) as the only other option.
    Indeed it's 1397, nice car!
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    ... Wasn't green considered by superstitious folks in some countries (e.g. UK, USA) to be an unlucky colour for a motorcar? Seem to recall that being the case?
    Yes, here in the U.S. from almost the start of motor racing.... dating back to certain fatal racing accidents in the teens and twenties. Mostly bad luck at Indy and later in stock car racing..... Then your Jimmy Clark came over and change 'most' of that by winning Indy in his green Lotus in '65.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 911MRP View Post
    . . . One of the 100 or so right-hand-drive model year Carrera RS with chassis number 1206 is for sale at Hexagon here in London.

    http://hexagonclassics.com/cars/1973...ouring-m472-2/ . . .
    VIN = 9113601206
    Eng# = ?
    Trans# ?

    '. . . Our ultra-rare right hand drive Carrera 2.7 RS Touring (M472) was manufactured by Porsche in Stuttgart, West Germany in May 1972, delivered new in the UK and supplied by the official Porsche concessionaire, AFN Isleworth. The car was commissioned to be built in:

    Grand Prix White with French Blue Decals
    Equipped with Sports Seats
    Heated Rear Window
    Electric Windows
    Outside Mirror Drivers Side

    As the Porsche is presented today:

    On Hexagon Classics acquisition we instructed one of the UK’s leading Historic Porsche Specialists to carry out a complete road test and report, undertake any necessary works required & confirm that the motorcar was indeed to matching numbers configuration.

    The previous owner acquired the 2.7RS some 12 years ago & embarked upon a sympathetic recommissioning programme by the same Porsche specialists, taking some 2 years to complete & costing approximately £50,000.00 . . .
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    Given that British cars typically raced in British Racing Green and did so from 1903 onwards when it was adopted as the British 'national' colour, it can't have been considered unlucky in the UK can it?

    Re Jim Clark, also a hero of mine. I have a copy of a book he gave to colin chapman inscribed 'To Colin from Jim'. It is one of the things i would race into a burning house to save!

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    I'm just wondering if first series cars should carry a premium if they have very few of their original thin panels remaining. I believe it is possible to buy some of the thin panels as reproduction parts now but they are mighty expensive (less is more - as they say). I wonder if this car has been restored with thin panels. Then I can see the premium with them but without them is it just the kudos of having a first series which counts?

    It is relatively easy to source a correct tool kit and when so much effort is put into all parts of a restoration then it seems myopic to not go the short extra distance to complete the job. I have a perfect kit for that car for instance. There have been a few for sale on this forum recently and may still be available.

    I believe Hexagon will be bringing a very rare colour RS to the market soon. It will be interesting to see if colour represents a premium and to what extent.

    If that is the current level for a restored RS what price my black unrestored example? I would have to forgo the first series premium but would think the third series unique features of my car namely short trailing arms and Silumin case along with the 'original' element might counterbalance things. I still think I would sell for a lot less than 695 and someone would get a great car. Don't you think that these cars have been 'over restored' in some cases, better than new thus destroying their originality?

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    Is it for sale or sold? Hexagon has it in their sold section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobius911 View Post
    Bonhams Scottsdale Auction 2016

    http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23132/lot/46/

    White/red M472
    Chassis no. 9113601446
    Engine no. 6631401

    Range is $600-800. Engine serial number font doesn't look right.
    I saw it at $520k hammer but my connection is slow, probably unsold
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    Quote Originally Posted by mobius911 View Post
    Bonhams Scottsdale Auction 2016

    http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23132/lot/46/

    White/red M472
    Chassis no. 9113601446
    Engine no. 6631401

    Range is $600-800. Engine serial number font doesn't look right.
    Nor do the rivets...
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