Ebay- Anyone know what this is??

[19-911-65]

What the heck is it??

" 1952 Porsche 356 Conv. Barn Find WOW 66000 miles"

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

[gulf908]

Shopper beware !!
This looks like one of the many 356 based cars that were no so uncommon in the early days of the 356 - Denzel was one of the better known offerings.
There were many others using the 356 mechanicals but the makers usually turned out to be just a blip on the radar.
Could be real ,though !

Cheers.
Dennis.

[lisa_spyder]

Guys,

I think it may a Beuttler - Porsche. Have a look at this link from Techno Classica and scroll to the pics of the Beuttler. http://www.prova.de/archiv/2003/00-a...03/index.shtml. This was a link I could find quickly. I have some literature somewhere...but can't lay my hands on it at present. As Dennis says, there were several other makers out there using Porsche running gear. But this one smacks of Beuttler (Switzerland) to me .

Cheers,
Lisa

[execmalibu]

Along with BUETLER,DENZEL and GLOCKER in the early 1950s there was also a company called DANENHOWER and STAUSS(spelling??) They all used Porsche running gear with hand made aluminum bodies..

Glocker was racing Porsches before the factory and was the first to use an aluminum body for a racing Porsche..(Gmunds were not raced) Later he was directly involved with Porsche for the development of the 550 Spyder.

Plus there were other companies not to forget when the Porsche factory sent chassis to ABARTH for the aluminum bodied ABARTH CARRERA in 1962..

There was also one other idea for Porsche running gear in a lighter body that you may have heard of and might be considered important??


The Speedster was the sole idea of the US importer of Porsche named Max Hoffman.. In 1953 he wanted a cheap and light car for the So Calif market to compete with the huge success of the MG. In 1954 Porsche began Production of the Speedster which many think is the car that defined Porsche in the US and the World.

Just think about what may have become of Porsche without American ingenuity!

Had an American not come up with the idea for the Speedster the best selling and most famous Porsche of the period. There may have ended up being another name on the list of dead car companies BUETLER,DENZEL, GLOCKER, DANENHOWER and PORSCHE

[demo]

This car was offered to me in the mid 80's. Its a Porsche chassis with "home made" modifications. The most vauable thing about it was the 16" wheels.

[Zeke]

I think I've seen something like that, but who knows? Sure looks like the predecessor to the Karman Ghia.

Hoffman was in NY, IIRC. Why wolud he concentrate on SoCal? East coast folks were racing just as much after WWII, as far as my history knowledge goes. From a personal standpoint, my former father-in-law purchased an MG TD, one year old in 1951 from a racer type in VA, where he was stationed as a Marine.

I ended up with it (along with his daughter ) and had it until I got my first 914 in '73, also a one year old car. The reason was the MG wouldn't commute on the then 65mph SoCal freeways. Alas, after the oil embargo, the freeway speed limit dropped to 55. Might still have the car if it weren't for that.

I wouldn't still have the daughter, though (and don't. LOL)

[Paul Schooley]

The real underlying issue with that car is the fact that the original body was badly compromised with Karman Ghia parts and isn't even close to original from a body perspective. Only a mega-expert could return this one to it's original status from what I see, but it looks like a fun toy.

[19-911-65]

Here is some info on the "Beutler Porsche".......

http://www.typ356.de/beutler/

http://users.compaqnet.be/skyimages/...ler%20356a.htm

http://leo.worldonline.es/jaumepor/p...eutler_cat.htm

[lisa_spyder]

OK, so I was too busy gawking at the pics to read the ad .

Paul, you're right - had I read what the guy wrote I would have known. Still it looks like an attempt to copy a Beutler to me (save me some face here!)...

Sure looks like a big rescue operation to me - hey I think I have original NOS guards and all sorts of other stuff for this...but no, I do not need a resto project thank you!

Cheers,
Lisa