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    Thanks Tom, I will follow up with that shop.

    Aaron,

    I couldn't sleep at night with blue oil lines on the Carrera. I can hardly tolerate one painted braided line.

    Surely you have customer with an RS that would like those blue lines instead of those old, beat-up gold lines.

    Seriously, do you know what type of metal the original oil lines are made of? Are they copper coated steel? Thanks.
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    Brian.......they don't take a magnet so I'm assuming copper.....

    Did you really have blue oil hose on the car?........I was just kidding.
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    The lines are made from 22mm thin wall brass tubing. You can buy 7/8" brass tubing from Mcmaster-Carr which is only .009" larger. You anneal the tubing, pack it tightly full of sand, and you can use a 7/8" tubing bender and reproduce the damaged line with the same type of smooth radius bends. I have the correct metric fittings to silver solder on that I could sell you. Hope this is helpful.
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    Hello: Listen to Mark about the oil lines. Filling the tube with sand is as old as time way of bending tubing without crimping it. If you do bend up your own lines you can sweat off the old fittings to attach to the new line. You could also try the plumber trick as I stated above. Hope this helps. Thanks Eric

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    Aaron,

    LOL, no I don't have blue lines on the car. The mechanics painted some braided, flexible line to match the other original hard line that was painted black long ago. I would really like to return it to the gold colored, original look for both lines like the RSR on your site. Looks great.

    Mark and Eric,

    I would never have thought about making up a new line. I will search around locally for someone that has the skill and equipment to do this. Lots and lots of good ideas, thanks again guys.
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    Seriously, Scott posted the answer on page one.

    I have lines on my car that looked like that. The process was much easier than searching the world over for a new line.

    Step #1 - Cap one end.
    Step #2 - Install a male air fitting in another cap and cap the other end.
    Step #3 - Hook up the air line.
    Step #4 - Get out the MAPP torch. Work it back and forth over the affected area and watch the dents come out. Go slowly and back off on the heat when you see it move until you get the feel for it.

    On mine, you can never even tell they were dented.

    If you decide to search to have one made, check with a brass instrument repair shop. If you're in a major metro area, chances are the local music store can direct you there.
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    I see you're in NW Indiana... you may want to look around Elkhart for an instrument manufacturer and talk to some engineers there (Selmer?)
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    Thanks Eric. I did look up those posts on Pelican and it seems that may be the best place to start by pressurizing the line and then heating it. If for some reason this isn't successful I can then look at having a new line created.

    There is a huge musical instrument seller in South Bend, I'm sure they would have some local contacts if you think that would be helpful in repairing the line.
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    Woodwind and Brasswind. Dennis Bamber is the owner. He may be of assistance but... he's a Ferrari guy!

    If you get the line pressurized, you'd be suprised. I remember the day my buddy came over with the fittings. I though "no way this is going to work" but, as we passed the torch over it they started to rise up. When you think about it, it all makes sense.

    I've yet to see the PP articles but I'm sure they're similar to what we did... there's probably only one way to skin that cat.

    NOW... that being said. A good brass instrument repair shop can also fix this for you. If someone at WWBW can't recommend you then I'd say know one can. From what I understand about the repair, they have different size balls they ram into the tubing with flex rods and they slowly force the dents out. I've seen horns (brass, just like your lines) that have been repaired and you can't tell the difference so... there you have it, another way to possibly skin that cat.

    Good luck with it.
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    P.S. I also have a friend that works at Yamaha (Musicial Instruments) in Grand Rapids. He's a Boxster guy and he may have a line on a repair facility there. Might be a couple hour drive to the North but...
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