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    Removing fuel evap. system

    Hi

    I want to remove the fuel evap. system on my US 71 911T. Is there any downside? (the euro cars did not have them) If its ok to delete what do I need to do at the engine end and what about the fuel tank outlets? My thought was to block of at engine end and tank(where exactly?), then I pressume the system is inactive and can be removed piece by piece even if the car is being used in between removing the different parts from the evap system?

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    John
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    Don't forget that you have to vent the tank to allow outside air into the tank as the gasoline is burned. A one way check valve in the vent line will keep the gasoline from spilling out if you roll over.

    John

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    How is the vent problem solved on euro cars? Maybe I can use the tube that goes through the chassis to the tank under the fender for this purpose?

    John
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    As a follow-up question, would a check valve be readily available from your friendly neighborhood autoparts store? I would think so, but any special requirements?
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    As I remember, and my memory has weakened appreciably, I think that I used a PCV valve from my local parts store. So far, my tank has not collapsed as the fuel is expended. As I have not rolled over, I can not comment on the reliability of the check valve.

    As for the Euro Vent question, it would take a look at the parts manual (stored in the garage at home) to see what was done accross the pond. The PET at Porsche.com might show a picture.

    John

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    The Euro vent is the tube from the top of the tank to the vapor box under the dash and then another tube down to a hole through the suspension pan by the washer fluid bottle.

    This is how my Euro car is plumbed. I have another vapor box if you need one.
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    I like the check valve idea rather than venting the tank directly to the outside world as I am now. Besides, maybe that area of the garage may smell a little less of gasoline.

    John thanks for bringing up the subject and John and Bob thanks for the answers. I will pick up a valve tonight.
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    From the PET it looks like the expasion box is also present in the US setup. I guess I will try to figure out where the lines go in my euro 73S and copy that to the US 71T. Then I will have to try to remove all the leftover lines from the US setup. Especially I wonder if its difficult to remove the two lines going to the back of the car(coming from the charcoal box) or can I just pull them out? Is there any point in installing a valve if I copy the euro setup, I have never had any fuel smell in the garage from the euro car.

    Any tips on blocking of at the engine, how is that done on the euro cars? (yes I know I can go down in the garage but I am venting out the gasoline small after removing the tank)

    John
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    matching tangerine and green

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    I bought a generic PCV on the way home. I was suprised to find that it is not a true one-way valve. True at pressure, it blocks a significant flow of air, but there is still leakage. At low pressure I can see gas vapors still slowly leaking out since it does not create a true seal. Is that the way they are supposed to work? I know the valve on my windshield squirters are a true one way valve,, would that be a better solution?
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