help mounting Autoflug belt retractor on rear shelf

[911scfanatic]

I recently purchased a pair of Autoflugs and would like to know how the retractors are typically mounted on the rear shelf (including any reinforcements welded on the engine compartment side). Pictures would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[Jim Garfield]

Bill, I'm interested in finding some detailed pictures of the factory mounts too. I have a pair of the retractable reel Autoflugs that I bought back in Nov. and so far I haven't had any luck locating info or photos of the backing plates under the rear shelf.

I did find these pictures of fixed belt anchor points:

[Jim Garfield]

Here's another option, but again, fixed rather than the reel:

[911scfanatic]

Jim, thanks for the posts. I had found this earlier thread:
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...light=autoflug
Sounds like we need to hear from RPMClassic or the Scott that curtisaa referred to. I had already PM'd RPMClassic back in January, but he never bothered replying to me. I don't know who Scott at Carrera 6 is...
This info has to be out there, all we need is someone to snap a pic.

[edmayo]

I have seen the factory installed mounting lug on either a 70 or 71 car, have not seen one on any car after 71.

[911scfanatic]

I know exactly what you're talking about but don't see how the mounting lugs can be used. The retractor housings have a flat plate that would seem to require mounting to a flat surface. They are kind of like the 3-point OEM front belt retractors, but smaller. The mounting lugs are at about a 45 degree angle relative to the shelf making it impossible to mount the retractors to them. Maybe I'm missing something though...

[Cornpanzer]

Bill, why not weld a standard harness tab to your roll bar crossbar. Thats what i did with mine

[BAPhotowerks]

I was considering mounting a Y shoulder harness to the factory position on my parcel shelf, but I read that belts should always be mounted in the shear direction of the bolts, rather than relying solely on the threads.

My second choice was an H style mounted to the rear lower seat belt anchors, but the angle created by the belt is less than optimal; the angle between anchor and the shoulder/seat shouldn't be more than 15 degrees from horizontal.

I'm still debating which way to go, I like the bar on the parcel shelf solution. I didn't realize those anchors are specific to a few years only.

BA

[911scfanatic]

Bill, why not weld a standard harness tab to your roll bar crossbar. Thats what i did with mine

I don't have a crossbar. It's just a hoop.

[911scfanatic]

I was considering mounting a Y shoulder harness to the factory position on my parcel shelf, but I read that belts should always be mounted in the shear direction of the bolts, rather than relying solely on the threads.

Mounting the retractor on the rear shelf would orient the bolt in the shear direction and keep the belt at +/- 15 degrees, I believe.