Source for 1972 Metallic Gold (440-9-3) paint

[M491]

Hello. I went to an automotive paint supply shop today to buy the correct paint for m 1972 911 coupe. The original color is gold and the tag on the door frame says 140-9-3. The paint guys could not find the formula for this color and caled Dupont to verify. They were told that there is no formula for this color, but it might be available in Europe. Well, that just won't do! Lots of questions... Does anyone know if there is another code for this color that is available. Very importantly, is there a source for it in the United States? Is 440 the same as 8888 and 8810? (by the way, they are also not available. Additionally, these codes refer to single stage paints (no clear coats). Wouldn't it be better to use a clear coat these days? Any and all adivice and comments are highly appreciated and I thank you all in advance.

[caproader]

Did you look at www.elferhelfer.de? Under 72/73 farben, gold metalic is listed as paint code 133. 133 is also the paint code for metalic gold in Brett Johnson's book.

John
Silver 73 S with sporto (not quite the same as gold, but close enough perhaps)

[72targa]

Did you try contacting Glasurit?

http://www.glasurit.com

I found a number of gold metallics on their "Search for a Formula" search engine (under COLOR):

http://www.glasurit.com/COLOR/new-co...php?language=1

I did not find "440", though.

[WHCJr72S]

M491:
I would be very interested in knowing what you fine out about the paint formula for gold metallic. I will need to repaint my car in the near future.
Thanks

[res0ca5d]

I'm far from an expert on this subject but I have done quite a bit of research. The 400 series colors belong to the brown group. I wonder if your car isn't a special order color that looks similar to gold metallic. Olive (414), for example, belongs to the brown group. Sepia (415), Cockney (408), Coffee (416), Togo (413). Similarly, greens are 200 series, blues are 300 series, etc. These 3 digit color codes only appear to 72/73 tags, but Bahama Yellow (6605 and 6805) is 110.

Hope this helps.

[M491]

They tell me this is no longer available as a formula in the US, but may still be as a European formula. Porsche tells me the original color code for my car was 8888. I think 8888 changed to 140 during 1972. Thankfully, all this tracks so far since 8888 and 140 are a yellowish gold reffect color, and my car is still gold. Glasurit shows the code, so I am going to guess they can still provide it. Originally, these cars were painted with a single-stage paint (no clear coat), which is why these gold and silver cars' paint jobs did not fare well in the sun, I guess. I would want my car clear coated today, considering the cost of a paint job. Is this considered a faux pas among purists?

[res0ca5d]

Technically, since your car is a coupe, 8810 is correct. 8888 was the designation for targas. I don't know why there was a seperate designation for coupes and targas.

My data shows:
1970...144
1971...8810 coupe...8888 targa
1972...133
1973...140

I do believe there were slight shade differences between 144, 133 and 140.
I would guess that 8810/8888 is the same as 144 because Porshe generally used the same paint designations in two year groups, 64/65, 66/67, ...

This is not always true either, as 72 Silver Metallic 925 but 1973 936.

Hope this helps.

Scott

[karlusmagnus]

Technically, since your car is a coupe, 8810 is correct. 8888 was the designation for targas. I don't know why there was a seperate designation for coupes and targas.


Hope this helps.

Scott

My guess is that the different code designation had to do with volume of paint needed to paint a coupe as opposed to less needed for a targa. In a manufacturing process, it would be handy to have, i would imagine.

[Alan.uk]

Hi,

This is from the 72-73 Porsche colour chart. 8888 is coupe

HTH



Alan

[res0ca5d]

Sorry, remembered coupe/targa thing backwards.