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    Would adding belts hurt value?

    My '67S came with aftermarket period lap belts up front and nothing more. I have kept it as is to this point. My question is, would it have a negative impact on the overall value of the car if I were to add anchor points on the b-pilar and center channel to install three-point belts with a period correct look? I would also like to add the rear lap belts. I believe the anchor points for the rears are already there.

    I want to respect the originality of the car while still making it more driveable. Can I have it both ways?
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    I don't think so, but same may disagree. That said, even if it is reversible, there should be no impact, as long as you keep the goodies that came with the car. FWIW, I am still using lap belts only in my SWB, more out of laziness than of consideration for value.
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    Concours judges don't see safety equipment and you should absolutely file a protest if you lose one single point for properly installed and otherwise aesthetically pleasing, but modern, belts AND mounting location and hardware.
    1966 911 #304065 Irischgruen

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    Quote Originally Posted by 304065 View Post
    Concours judges don't see safety equipment and you should absolutely file a protest if you lose one single point for properly installed and otherwise aesthetically pleasing, but modern, belts AND mounting location and hardware.


    What john said. Safety is better than authenticity...as long as it looks nice.
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    To hell with the affect they might have on value, getting impaled to death by the steering wheel woiuld simply move the car to your heirs that much sooner.

    You will find a piece of hardware between the B and C pillars that is designed to take the load imposed by an over-the-shoulder belt. There will be those who argue that these will break you collar bone. Perhaps, but that's a better alternative than a crushed face or ruptured aorta.

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    As a Porsche specialty salvage yard owner with some 40 years under his belt, Jim can tell you stories until the cows come home about the fate of drivers who only used a lap belt.

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    I installed a set of shoulder belts in my 68 with NO modifications needed, they would be reversible in about 5 minutes.

    Don't know if the 67 is the same, but in the 68, the third point, attached to an anchor point in the rear side panel (originally covered with a bolt), while the other two installed with latches to the existing 2 point anchors. They work quite well, with aircraft style buckles.

    I can't remember the name of the supplier, if interested let me know and I'll dig it up.

    The second picture shows the bolt on the rear side panel of a 67
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    Quote Originally Posted by hdavis View Post
    I installed a set of shoulder belts in my 68 with NO modifications needed, they would be reversible in about 5 minutes.
    Could you show a pic of how the three point looks from the front seats? I'm curious as to how the shoulder and lap belts come together.

    Thanks.

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    Lap belts only in a sports car? shame

    Some old Porsche seats make me feel like I'm balancing on a beach ball.
    No Lateral support.
    Get a good four point belt to hold you in your chair.
    Don't they make an inexpensive prefabricated bolt in rear harness bar?
    Being attached to your car improves car feedback and driver inputs.

    Safety, car shows, resale issues are good points too.
    Safety should trump "period correct".

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    3-point belts

    I've noticed in the '65 911 options manual there is listed 3-point, sash-style belts available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhuiz View Post
    Could you show a pic of how the three point looks from the front seats? I'm curious as to how the shoulder and lap belts come together.

    Thanks.
    I'm travelling but will post them by the end of the week
    Henry

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