Ultimate ST thread

[gms]

current pix

[HughH]

Glenn

great pics

I believe that this is a period photo of 911 230 1195. Photo taken at 27 May 1973 - Nürburgring (D): Round 7, World Manufacturers Championship, car 49 Anton Fischhaber/Leopold von Bayern Porsche (although it is shown in the records as an RSR)

also attached is some paperwork on 911 230 0987 from when it was for sale some time ago

It is interesting that both have option M491.
I wonder if this is one way to determine whether an ST is a factory build or not. (although I have seen M471 option ST's as well which would also seem to suggest they were a factory build)

[sezme]

Excellent thread guys.....

Stuart Zeh

[gms]

great pics

You Too

It is interesting that both have option M491.
I wonder if this is one way to determine whether an ST is a factory build or not. (although I have seen M471 option ST's as well which would also seem to suggest they were a factory build)

I believe M491 is full race equipped & M471 is more of a "finish it yourself" car.
I will have to look at my race parts catalogs

BTW does anyone have the FIA Homologation paperwork???

[gms]

1970 Waldegaard/Helmer, Austrian Alps Rally
1970 Larrousse/Wood, RAC Rally
1971 Larrousse, Montlhery & Magny Cours
1971 Barth, Montlhery
1971 Barth, Monte Carlo Rally - service vehicle
1971 Barth, Tour de France
1972 Larrousse, Championship of Europe, Nurburgring
1992 D’Agostino, Tour Auto
2001 Lewis/Bouzaglou, Tour Auto

[HughH]

Glenn

do you have details of driver etc for this?

I have a number of pics of that event - maybe??

The records I have show car #8 coming second in the 200 Meilen von Nürnberg, Int. ADAC-Norisring-Rennen (Grand-Tourisme-Wagen Gruppen 3 und 4), on that day but the driver and entrant as Heinz-Jörgen Dahmen (D) in a Porsche 911S.
I thought that Bartels had the car at that time.

Also at that event was what looks like a sister car car #7 entered and driven by Thomas Datzmann (D)

Here is another pic of car #8 on that day, you can just see it behind car #4 (Günter Schulte (D) entered by Hülpert Racing Team who eventually came third) and one of car #7 in the pits and another of the pits on that day.

In the last pic car #29 is listed as an "S" driven by Alfred Kunze (D) and entered by Equipe Liqui Moly and car #21 is listed as a "T" driven and entered by Wilhelm Siegle (D)


Hgo posted some more pictures of car #8 here http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...artels&page=70

[HughH]

back on track....... the third of the 3 1970 Monte cars
model year 1970
Vin 911 030 0003
registration number ST 5706
original use - werks rallye car 1970 Monte Carlo for Åke Andersson/Bo Thorselius; car #11
Engine Size: 2.3 Liter

history:
4th Monte Carlo Rally Jan 16-24 1970

Stuttgart-Solitude-Lyons-Charbonnieres Rally
13th-18th March 1970 Gerard Larrousse car #6

May 28-31 1970 Acropolis Rally
Åke Andersson and Bo Thorszelius car#4, abandon (con-rod)

Nov 13-18 RAC Rally 1970
Åke Andersson car #23 DNF (gearbox)

Photos
Monte car #11
Gerard Larrousse car #6
Acropolis Rally
RAC (x2)

[HughH]

Glenn has already mentioned 911 030 0949.

However these two are linked and there is a degree of controversy about both. There appears to be two 0949's currently and 0950 seems to have disappeared a long time ago. There are a number of threads on these cars on the board.

The factory built two "special" 911S/Ts for 1970, 911 030 0949 and 0950; Within the factory, they were known as "Rallye" cars.

911 030 0949 was originally registered as S-R 2970 and used by the werks in May 1970 in the Alpine Rally, Austria for Waldegaard/Helmer which they won, and then in November 1970 in the RAC Rally for Larrousse/Wood who came 6th.

Its last factory assignment was in the 1971 Monte as a recce car with Bath. It then passed through Louis Meznarie's hands (and driven by Larousse and Bath amongst others) before doing the 1971 Tour de France as car 132 Reg. 4833 0C 91, in psychedelic shell colours similar to the 1970 TdF car (S-U 9370) with which it has been confused.

It then did the Criterium de Cervannes as car 77 in the same colours.

Somewhere along the way two separate cars with this number have come into existence.

photos:
Alpine Rally car #3 ; 1st
RAC Rally: Larrousse/Wood car #30 ; 6th
TdF car 132
Cervannes car 77
what I believe is 0949 at present

[HughH]

I also have some photos of a car from Larrousse's website http://www.gerard-larrousse.com/ which show an orange ST looking car driven by Larrousse at Montlhery and Magny Cours at the same time as Meznarie owned it and Larrousse was driving it (March and April 1971).
I have always assumed it was 911 030 0949, but would like confirmation or otherwise if anyone on the board knows for sure.
Pictures:
Montlhery March 1971
Magny Cours in May 1971 (x2)

[HughH]

This is what I have on 0950

Reg. S-R 2971
1970: 911 ST.
Engine type: 911/02. Number: 630 1281.
Capacity: 2195 cc.
Gearbox: Type 901.
Weight: 789 Kg.

1970:
Feb 11-15 Swedish Rally: Andersen/Torzelius; DNF.
Jul 16-19 Polish Rally: Zasada; 2nd OA.

it seems to have disappeared soon after. I saw one report that it had been wrecked in a rallye practice accident

However I do have photos of a car with registration S-R 2971 in the 1970 TAP rallye (Oct 1- 4) for Waldegård/Thorszelius (car #8), It is not clear if this is the same car or not but it is a narrow car like the one in the swedish rallye and they were a factory driver pairing..............

photos
Swedish Rally: Andersen/Torzelius; car #9
TAP rallye Waldegård/Thorszelius car #8