Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: S/T documentation needed for FIA approval

  1. #1

    S/T documentation needed for FIA approval

    I know there has been a lot of S/T treads lately, but here goes:

    In order to have a 70/71 chassis S/T replica approved for FIA Historic with the 2.5 engine and not the 2.3 engine FIA needs to have documentation that proves the S/T was run with this engine configuration before 1972. I have heard that Kremer ran a 2.5 S/T setup already in 70/71. Can anyone confirm this and back it up with Wagonpass, factory/Kremer documentation or old magazine articles from the days?

    Another friend is trying his contact with Kremer, but I think that trail is cold if they do not keep much of their old documentation?

    Best and thanks
    John
    Early 911S Registry #931
    --------------------------------
    1971 911 2.2S Coupe Albert Blue
    1971 911 2.2T Coupe Tangerine
    2005 997 C2S Coupe special 1965 slate grey
    1978 911 3.0 SC Targa Silver w/chrome trim

  2. #2
    Senior Member C.Plavan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Clovis, Ca
    Posts
    386
    The 2.5L ST's ran at Daytona in 72. You should be able to find that. Also at Le Mans.

  3. #3
    Plavan, thanks but I need documentation that a S/T ran a 2.5 engine in 70/71. What I heard was that Kremer ran such an engine in this season, maybe towards the end.

    John
    Early 911S Registry #931
    --------------------------------
    1971 911 2.2S Coupe Albert Blue
    1971 911 2.2T Coupe Tangerine
    2005 997 C2S Coupe special 1965 slate grey
    1978 911 3.0 SC Targa Silver w/chrome trim

  4. #4
    Thanks a lot Raj! I will contact Matt and see if he has some info on this issue.

    John
    Early 911S Registry #931
    --------------------------------
    1971 911 2.2S Coupe Albert Blue
    1971 911 2.2T Coupe Tangerine
    2005 997 C2S Coupe special 1965 slate grey
    1978 911 3.0 SC Targa Silver w/chrome trim

  5. #5

    Fia

    Hi John,
    did you try to get the Porsche homologation sheets from 70, 71 and 72.Normally Porsche has everything documented and homologated that was in possible range.They are normally available through the national sport commisions.And with that Homologation sheet you just get the approval.
    regards Stefan GTSclassics
    702 353 7175
    ClassicCarSeats.com

  6. #6
    Moderator Chuck Miller's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Reseda, CA.
    Posts
    12,459
    John,

    I've looked through most of my reference and so far cannot come up with a 2.5 justification before '72.....

    I think the next thing you should try is to contact MAHLE and see if they have an exact date when the 2.5 piston options were available... If they were around any time pre-'72 you know someone out there tried'm......

    Cheers
    Chuck Miller
    Creative Advisor/Message Board Moderator - Early 911S Registry #109
    R Gruppe #88

    TYP901 #62
    '73S cpe #1099 - Matched # 2.7/9.5 RS spec rebuild
    '67 Malibu 327 spt cpe - Period 350 Rebuild

    ’98 Chevy S-10 – Utility
    ’15 GTI – Commuter

  7. #7
    MAHLE made the 90mm Nickasil for the 917 full 5.0 liter engine by 1971, so someone like Piech or Singer at the factory or even the Kremers must have come up with some for the 911 shortly thereafter. The factory could see the direction the Sports Car World Championship was going- developing the 911 for more prominent racing was on the horizon, as was a desire for better street cars.

    just my thoughts, no real authority here
    1971 911S, 2.7RS spec MFI engine, suspension mods, lightened
    Early 911S Registry Member #425

  8. #8

    Type 911/70 1971

    John:

    Try this:

    Please refer to Porshce 911 Red Book by Patrick Paternie, pp28-29 where the engine is clearly listed with all the Series C and D racing engines.

    "Racing Engines (cont'd from p28)

    Type 911/70 1971
    86.7 millimeter bore x 70.4 millimeter stroke, 2492 cc
    "


    I looked on the master engine chart shown in Excellence Was Expected and Karl Ludvigsen also shows a 1971 introduction date.
    Early 911S Registry
    Looking for engine 960 168
    Looking for gear box 103 165

  9. #9
    Hi
    See if Bo can help.he used to work for kremer
    BoStrandell@aol.com

Similar Threads

  1. Kardex documentation
    By Original Poster in forum General Info
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 03-22-2014, 02:08 PM
  2. Wanted: '73 RS w/documentation
    By Jeff Trask in forum For Sale/Wanted: Early 911 Cars, 1965 - 1973
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 01-17-2010, 04:29 PM
  3. Detailed photo documentation of a 1969 Porsche 911T
    By 72targa in forum Technical Info
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-18-2009, 08:36 AM
  4. Documentation of production #'s by color
    By Perry911 in forum General Info
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 08-28-2006, 07:44 PM
  5. 1968 911 with amazing documentation
    By 2POINT7 in forum For Sale/Wanted: Early 911 Cars, 1965 - 1973
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-06-2005, 06:43 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Message Board Disclaimer and Terms of Use
This is a public forum. Messages posted here can be viewed by the public. The Early 911S Registry is not responsible for messages posted in its online forums, and any message will express the views of the author and not the Early 911S Registry. Use of online forums shall constitute the agreement of the user not to post anything of religious or political content, false and defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise to violate the law and the further agreement of the user to be solely responsible for and hold the Early 911S Registry harmless in the event of any claim based on their message. Any viewer who finds a message objectionable should contact us immediately by email. The Early 911S Registry has the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary.