Testing the water: 71 911S sunroof

[Frank Beck]

Looking for pricing neighborhood. (I know all bets are off in this current market).

Customer has a 1971 911S coupe (VIN 9111301277) and has lost interest.
Color changed from #7474 Fecal Brun (AKA: Sepia) to #8080 Silver Metallic. Painted and ready for assembly.
Matching engine (Rebuilt with new P@C's, NOS MFI pump and throttle bodies, etc.) and transmission.
Needs complete interior (black sportseats are ready to go) and reassembly.
Car has been in Phoenix for over 40 years. No rust. Period.
Following options:

Sunroof
Electric windows
A/C
Limited slip diff
Sport seats
Automatic seatbelts

Should have photos in a couple of weeks.
I know the color change is a drag but Sepia is one of those colors that's great until you actually have to look at it.
Riddle me this; why did Germans find the color of excrement attractive?

Thanks.

[RSTarga]

hey its the same color as the panzer tanks. I had a 67s that color totally chick deterrent. That sounds like a great car. 50 grand? Is engine still 2.2?

[ErVikingo]

No, color is ugly, and color change is a no no; I'll give you $5K just to save you from having to look at it...

[boba]

Doing a color change correctly is hard and costly, and at the end of the day hurts the value.

So why, on a car which could get premium price if original color would you spend more to get less?

[silverc4s]

I would think that it is north of $50K if it is all there & matching numbers car. Are the 71 Fuchs with it? Original 2.2? etc..

The color change will matter to some buyers and not others. Alot depends on the quality of the respray, esp metallic silver. Hard color to paint properly these days..

[Bullethead]

Should have photos in a couple of weeks.
I know the color change is a drag but Sepia is one of those colors that's great until you actually have to look at it.
Riddle me this; why did Germans find the color of excrement attractive?

Thanks.

Sounds very interesting Frank, looking forward to pics. Care to give a shop-time estimate of assembly, perhaps far enough to make standard transport possible?

As to the German fetish for that color: their commodes don't have a ledge in them so they're denied admiring their >ahem< handiwork and must manifest their longing some other way.

Thanks, I'll be here all week folks, please try the veal.

Russ
'68 T Targa, unapologetically sportin' a Sportomatic

[67Porsche911S]

Riddle me this; why did Germans find the color of excrement attractive?

Because most of the cars were planned to be sold in the US.

[67softwindow]

Here is your rule of thumb for pricing in this market.
Think what you would expect to get early last year and take a 40% to 60% reduction. Those are the levels that send the buyers reaching for their wallets. Works everytime.

[LongRanger]

I just bought a car so I'll share my thought process along with an opinion.

An Arizona car is a HUGH plus. As long as it's sorta documented, passes all the usual visual checks and looks good underneath --- no big scrapes or contact. What about the battery boxes?

Original color is irrelevant. But silver? . . . sigh.

'Roof and LSD are great options . . . A/C is not.

You didn't mention miles or collision damage, or whether the engine has been run in. NOS MFI needs proof. Really need to be able to demo that the engine, trans, and LSD all work properly. Compression numbers help, but . . .

Complete interior, huh? Does that include a dash? I can put up with no interior but doing the whole thing can be a PitA for a Buyer who wants to have a nice car NOW. Especially at this price-point.

Sounds like another $5-8k to finish to a driver standard, assuming all the other mechanical items (like brakes, clutch, charging system, etc) are sorted and working properly. Condition of the wheels? (There are five, right?) And what about tires?

With the way things are right now, I'd offer $38-43k to start ---- if it's a runner. But if the car is on a trailer with a bunch of boxes and a story . . .

Hope this helps. And good luck.

[Vintage Racer]

No, color is ugly, and color change is a no no; I'll give you $5K just to save you from having to look at it...

Those accountants drive a hard bargain. I'll offer you $10K for your wrecked race car.

Personally, the color change would not stop me from buying the car although I would agree that it somewhat hurts the value.

With the way things are right now, I'd offer $38-43k to start ---- if it's a runner. But if the car is on a trailer with a bunch of boxes and a story . . .

I agree. I've never heard of an "almost finished" car that was finished under budget. It will always cost more to properly finish than a guy originally thinks.

Good luck. That will be a very nice car.