The car in the photos is my '68 911. The brackets are available from Stoddard's here at $34.64 each.
Ed - good write up with pics. I was just about to email you to find out where to get the parts to do this retrofit. I went to Stoddards and added up all the factory pieces and it comes to about $600. Man what a bummer.
Robert Williams
911T
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Thanks for the link. Those really do look flimsy in the picture. It would be easy enough to box them, but then I guess they would not be factory looking. From what I have read, given my car is only a 912 and not a track car, the chances of them being ripped out at pretty low though. Does anyone have an old bar with links they want to sell?
Mark Erbesfield
2018 911 Carrera T 7spd manual 😊
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Bob, you should be able to find most of the parts used, but of course you will have to buy new the pieces that are welded.
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Ed/all,
I'm in the process of finding all the bits to do this as well as to install a front 15mm bar on my '70. Most are used but bushings are new from Stoddard. Can you tell me what the correct size bolts are for mounting the bracket to the console, as well as for attaching the the front droplinks to the U-tab on the control arms? I think they're both M8s but not sure about length and necessary washers.
Thanks,
Ed
(a) 1970 911T Sportomatic coupe
(b) 2016 E350 4MATIC wagon; parts hauler for (a)
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The bolts are all 8 x 1.25, the length for the rear console is about 1/2" I think. The bolt end should protrude out from the captive nut slightly. Use split type lock washers. The bolts for the front drop links are longer, maybe an inch? You'll know the length is right if the bolt goes thru the link and has enough length protruding to install a split lock washer and nut, with only a few threads protruding beyond the nut. I really don't try to memorize lengths, but have the advantage of a very complete hardware supply, so I just walk over to the bins and get what I need.
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In gathering my bits I went ahead and ordered a pair of Wevo RARB consoles. I know Ed and others have said they're overkill for a standard 15mm rear bar, but I was thinking it might be a good idea and use them in the event I ever decide to upgrade to larger bars.
That said, I see now that the Wevo RARB's bolt holes are spaced too far apart for the factory bar mounting brackets. (Photo to follow) Good thing I checked before starting the process. Now I need to go back and order a pair of factory brackets, then either return the Wevo brackets or sell them to someone who can actually use them.
(a) 1970 911T Sportomatic coupe
(b) 2016 E350 4MATIC wagon; parts hauler for (a)
ESR #1474
I don't remember what the exact spacing difference is, but I think you could use the Wevo's by slot grinding the bolt holes to match up. I think it's only an 1/8" or so per hole.
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Photos attached. This is with the "B" bar installed. I had an "A" bar originally and tore sheetmetal in the chassis which had to be reinforced and re-welded after 4 years. Since the "B" is a larger bar (which I run at a relatively softer setting) I remain concerned. If the mounts tear out again, I'll go to the Wevo Mounts. Hayden's stuff is really great (you can see his transmission crossmember in the background of one of the pictures).
johnt
Stupid me, I missed the part where Wevo says to use >'78 brackets/clamps!
http://www.wevo.com/Products/Chassis...RBConsoles.htm
Originally Posted by the folks at Wevo
(a) 1970 911T Sportomatic coupe
(b) 2016 E350 4MATIC wagon; parts hauler for (a)
ESR #1474