pedal box finish

[RSTarga]

I am putting new brass bushings in my pedal set and bead blasted everything for reassembly. Is the black finish glossy or semi gloss? When I took it apart the base seemed to be gloss and the pedals semi gloss.

[911pcars]

OMG, is there a paint code for the pedal assy. too?

Why is there a need to obsess (probably an overstatement; my apologies) with the tone of black for this part? After a few months of use, the pedal assy will appear as dust, cocoa mat remnants and horsehair over a darkish paint tone.

If the car is to be displayed only, not sure anything but the pedal arms will be visible, in which case you'll hear from the concours folks.

Sherwood

[RSTarga]

believe me this car is not on display, but since i was starting from scratch, I wanted to do it correctly. I ended up doing the base in glossy and the pedal arms in satin black. I just thought that this would look better. I guess I've been traumatized by other discussions here as to , for instance, the amount of overspray in the areas under the carpet.

[preS]

believe me this car is not on display, but since i was starting from scratch, I wanted to do it correctly. I ended up doing the base in glossy and the pedal arms in satin black. I just thought that this would look better. I guess I've been traumatized by other discussions here as to , for instance, the amount of overspray in the areas under the carpet.

I share your approach. Why not do it correct if you have a chance? Not too many people will be sorry that they did it right at once.

just my $.02

Richard

[Paul Schooley]

That's the best part of this forum...learning what was 'correct' in our efforts to restore our cars to what they left the factory as. There's no such thing as too much information in this area.

[kundensport]

While correctness doesn't matter to some, some strive for correctness. (Disclaimer; From what I've seen, IMHO and looks to be,) just as you did it glossy on main and pedal arms/pedals satin.

[RSTarga]

Thanks, it turned out great. My main problem was finding a way to insert the pin into the clutch pedal shaft. I ended up putting a 6mm x15 bolt in one side of the hole to align the shaft and the pedal and then drove the locking pin in with a heavy brass head hammer. The head of the bolt cushioned the pedal.

[37yrold911]

OMG, is there a paint code for the pedal assy. too?

Why is there a need to obsess (probably an overstatement; my apologies) with the tone of black for this part? After a few months of use, the pedal assy will appear as dust, cocoa mat remnants and horsehair over a darkish paint tone.

If the car is to be displayed only, not sure anything but the pedal arms will be visible, in which case you'll hear from the concours folks.

Sherwood

I share your approach. Why not do it correct if you have a chance? Not too many people will be sorry that they did it right at once. And that is why I plated mine. It is much more rust resistant that way. If one must have black then use powder coating. Porsche was and is all about functionality and that is what is correct.

If you are running a museum, then by all means do a colimated beam scan of the original paint and reproduce it. Don't forget to use the archival software program that allows you to predict color shifts and tone changes in the paint based on sun and humidity exposure.

BTW - does anybody know exactly what alloy was used in the original 1969 muffler clamps? We are thinking of reproducing them and want to get the right stamping mill for the alloy used.

[911pcars]

I share your approach. Why not do it correct if you have a chance? Not too many people will be sorry that they did it right at once. And that is why I plated mine. It is much more rust resistant that way. If one must have black then use powder coating. Porsche was and is all about functionality and that is what is correct.

If you are running a museum, then by all means do a colimated beam scan of the original paint and reproduce it. Don't forget to use the archival software program that allows you to predict color shifts and tone changes in the paint based on sun and humidity exposure.

BTW - does anybody know exactly what alloy was used in the original 1969 muffler clamps? We are thinking of reproducing them and want to get the right stamping mill for the alloy used.

Well, now that you bring it up, you mentioned two alternative methods of refinishing; plating and powder coating, neither of which was used by the factory on the earlier models (AFAIK).

Your statement: "Why not do it correct if you have a chance?" begs the question as to what's "correct", and that was my point. Is the best method "correct" or does mere rattle can spray paint to factory specs suffice for correctness? And thus my firmly-planted, tongue-in-cheek answer to RSTarga's original question.

IMHO, for this component assembly where only the pedal arms are visible, I would opt for powder coating for the longest lasting and closest matching finish (assuming leaking brake fluid doesn't remove said finish in short order).

Sherwood

[VintageExcellen]

IMO - powdercoating looks plasticy and not original. I think powdercoat is being overused these days - durable, yes. Can you touch it up when you scratch or nick it? NO. Is there paint available that is as strong as powdercoat that can be touched up - YES but not an easy find.


I think the factory parts suppliers used a dip more often than not. Parts run on a conveyor into a paint dip tank and then dried, sometimes with an oven. A hard process to reproduce. I know many parts like engine sheet metal was done that way but not sure what else was done that way.


For the pedal assy I have a few unique pictures for you guys. The following pictures are from a 68 912 pedal assy. The car had 51,000 original miles on it at the time of these photos and this was the very first time the pedal assy was pulled since originally installed by the factory.

What do we call this? OG Pedal assy porn???