Ultimate R thread

[Eric Gratz]

Gerhard Mitter driving
911R prototype 1, serial number 305876, S-YZ 28
24 September 1967
Bergpreis Schwäbische Alb #320
3rd over all, 1st prototype 2L



Another photo from the same event here

https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...=1#post1092522

[_gonbau]

https://www.topspeed.com/1967-porsch...f-the-911-gt3/

nice pics 911 R

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[John Straub]

Thanks for posting!

John

[recarno]

thank you very much for the link via number 010. it's a shame that the cameraman was so uninterested in the car. you can hardly see the interior and only a few details of the car. I was at the Nürburging in 2018 - to meet a friend who drove his 910 there - but unfortunately "overlooked" the R.

regards uwe

[Chuck Miller]

Thank you Baudett...

[niall1]

wow. my gullwing's first owner was Lance reventlow. A version of that color became Scarab Blue.

Apparently the color wasn't a specific shade but test sprayed on the wall of the workshop for Lance to approve before applying to the body of the car being finished. Carroll Shelby then assumed the same blue as their team color when he took over Lance's workshop after the Scarab racing venture was wound up.

He never took delivery of that R but subsequently bought a 911 E in '72 that his brother converted to ST/Group 4 spec with the help of the factory after Lance's untimely death.

Do you still have the gullwing? Alloy body that Lance also raced a few times.

[_gonbau]

"Rafa Cid and Alfonso Quintas with the Porsche 911 R, chassis number 9, shortly before the accident. It had not yet been registered, it had green plates."

Fundacion Estanislao Reverter

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[Arnaud_france]

Hi there. My first message here, i just joined because of this thread.

Do you know something about that car?
911R, rallye de haute Normandie (France), 1968.
Driver Philippe Farjon, codriver Jean Jack Lecreux (my father). They broke the engine during the rally, but the team owner (R. buchet) sait that was normal because the engine did 2 other rallys + Le Mans testing with just an oil change before the normandy Rally.
There was another 911R in the same rally with G. chasseuil.



(My father is codriver here)


911S in the entry list, but my father is sure it was a R

[HughH]

Arnaud

While accepting that registration plates can be switched from car to car (and sometimes engines) I think that car is a 911S vin #308176S. That was a Sonauto car but what you father may have been confused about is that it was built with a "hot" engine with the kardex showing it was measured at 179.6 PS at the factory before delivery. Not quite R HP but significantly enhanced.
it also had a Sport Kit II as well as additional competition modifications from new. At least initially, it seems to have been a factory owned car via Sonauto and certainly a special car to be associated with.

That car (308176S) was car #42 for Robert Buchet / Herbert Linge / Auguste Veuillet at the 1967 Le Mans (14th) , car #24 at the Paris 1000km on October 15 1967, Guy Chassuell's car #136 at the 1968 Rally LYON-CHARBONNIERES , car #92 at ( i think) Cervannes in 1968 with Buchet as well as at the Haute-Normandie rally in April 1968

Interestingly though the results of the 1968 Le Mans test (on 7 April) show Buchet (as car #45 possibly) in a "911R" I have no photo of the car or any other information except it was a DNF.. That would be a couple of weeks before the Haute-Normandie rally pictured

At that time Buchet had the use of the Sonauto owned 911R #18 and it was registered as 8931 UT 75.

However he also had 911R #16 (another Sonauto car) which, supposedly, was the car at the Le Mans Test and I have it recorded as at Coupes de Vitesse, Montlhery on the 28th of April 1968 driven by Buchet to 3rd place

[Arnaud_france]

Thanks for the VERY DETAILED feedback. According to my father, Bucher told him it was a R. Same for Chasseuil's car in this rally. And my father saw lot of discussions between the officials and Buchet, about the plates, serial numbers & so on...
Btw, we will never know :-)
My father remembers discussing with Farjon, the pilot, during a special stage, and Farjon told him "Can you imagine ? we are at 240 km/h !?!!"... crazy when we know the small roads on that rally !
Buchet just wanted to know what were the limits of the car after the Le Mans testing. He wasn't surprised when the engine broke in the middle of special stage... According to my father, the engine AND the car are the one from the testings. No engine swap.
Then it could be the #45 testing car at le mans 1968.