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    @#$!! I got the wrong steel fenders, I think...

    Back on my thread here I went into some detail on test fitting some steel fenders I had bought for my '68:

    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...light=11830133

    I am pretty sure now that these are not for a '68, but for an earlier 911, due to the fact that one of the fenders (passenger side) has 4 screw holes for the horn grille, and there is not a noticeable flare of any kind around the wheel opening, it's pretty smooth. (I actually have the chrome 4 screw horn grille that goes with it, but I did not notice this before.) So let's say I have "earlier than '68" fenders- should I just go ahead and use them? Would that affect my plans to use the stock 5.5" wheels with them? I'm going to use stock 165/15 size type tires anyway, so maybe it makes not one whit of difference.

    More fun with a '68 and all their "one year only" stuff. Lordy I wish I had just bought a '67...

    EDIT: From Richard on my previous post, that I missed: "Finally, although any '65-68 SWB front fender will work fine on your car the '68 fender is slightly different from the earlier fenders. The fender lip (where it angles in toward the tire) is narrower than on '65-67 fenders. This was done to allow more clearance for the wider 5.5" wheels used in 1968. If your replacement fenders don't have this narrower lip you can trim yours back until it is about 1/2" wide to make it like a '68 fender...or you can ignore it. Another idea if you aren't worried about originality is to roll the fender lip for added tire clearance."

    So it looks like the tire would be okay, but is there a "rarity" issue with the earlier 4 hole grille fenders, or are they as common as any of the others?
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    I wouldn't worry about it, although a fender with original four screws and the "lip" is worth more to a 64-65 restorer. You will have to modify for two screws and roll the lip if you anticipate wheel clearance issues.
    1966 911 #304065 Irischgruen

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    If I understand

    A fender with 4 screws to hold the horn grill is an earlier, pre-68 fender, for sure. It will look goofy and be noticeable with one fender with 4 hole grill and the other with two hole horn grill, which is correct for a 1968.

    -Allen-

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    I'd agree that having a 4 hole grille on one side and not the other would probably bug me to death, even if most folks missed it. Looks like I need to sell these fenders, or at least one of them. Headed to classifieds...
    1968 Porsche 911 #11830133 (2009- 2012)
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    1983 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole
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    The front fenders for a '68 car are............one year only fenders. They are the only year fender with:

    large size 2-screw horn grills
    4-DOT headlight mounting tabs in the light bucket
    Factory shaved inner fender lips
    No flairs ala LWB

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    Lets see...how many more one year only parts do I need? 5.5 inch wheels, fenders, an emissions air pump and related parts...I'm having lots of fun trying to get the car back to factory specs! And let's not forget a wood steering wheel, there's another grand there...oh well, let the Easter egg hunt continue!
    1968 Porsche 911 #11830133 (2009- 2012)
    1968 Porsche 911T #11820522 (1997-2007)
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    Missing my Porsche. Need to find another SWB project!

    Current cars:
    1918 Willys-Overland Model 90BT
    1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk1a
    1977 Chevrolet Suburban C20 "Trailering Special"
    1983 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole
    1992 RHD Toyota Century

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    Okay, here's another angle. The bottoms of the turn signal/horn grille housings on my replacement steel fenders have some rust. The same pieces in my fiberglass fenders are in perfect shape, they are original Porsche pieces that are bonded to the fiberglass fender. Would it be possible to remove the damaged ones from the steel fender, and install the ones from my fiberglass fenders, without causing any damage? I don't have them handy to look at, I'm hoping they are just spot welded into place and I could just drill those out to replace them. This would put me into a better situation than trying to sell the 4 hole horn grille fender, which I'm not getting much action on in the near term. Just trying to figure out how to work with what I've got without jumping through too many hoops.
    1968 Porsche 911 #11830133 (2009- 2012)
    1968 Porsche 911T #11820522 (1997-2007)
    Registry Member #1536
    Hagerty Insurance Guy

    Missing my Porsche. Need to find another SWB project!

    Current cars:
    1918 Willys-Overland Model 90BT
    1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk1a
    1977 Chevrolet Suburban C20 "Trailering Special"
    1983 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole
    1992 RHD Toyota Century

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    I have a built in 65 912 with date matched 68 Fuchs, and 185 75 15 tires. Had tire rub on the inside wheel wells. Bought a spacer kit from Elephant racing that goes on the steering rack to the turbo tie rods. No clearence problems with the finder edge before, and no more inner wheel well rub now. R-M.

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    Sorry, this is R-M again. I have 185 (65) 15 tires on 5.5 inch 1968 fuchs.

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