Entering Porsche 911 in Classic Le Mans or Silverstone Classic

[John Sinclair]

I used the search button first, but nothing of help came up. So I was wondering if any of you can point me in the right direction. Starting of with a 1971 911 T what can and can't I do to be able to enter the car for events like the Classic Le Mans and Silverstone Classic?

Does it need to have the original 2.2 liter engine, is the 2.5 the limit or can I also use a custom built engine based on a 3.0 SC? Can I use the SC brake callipers and how about things like roll bars (heavier) and suspension?

Where can I learn more about this?

Thanks.

John

[MikeB]

On the car front, it would probably need an FIVA Historic Vehicle identity document/passport, which will be based on the homologation papers relative to the model you are saying the car is. The best thing to do is to talk to somebody who currently runs a car in these type of events or organises them. If you are in the UK then ring the RAC MSA at Colnbrook and ask for advice, or whoever is you local FIA sanctioned body.

The threads on here such as The Ultimate ST ... or T/R are good places to look and pick up hints on period mods and specification. There is also a guy called Alex Beeler in Switzerland who can supply electronic copies of the 911 homologation papers, I can supply an email if you are interested.

[Mycar]

I`m afraid the only help I can offer is to suggest you ask your question over on DDK.

http://www.ddk-online.com/


Mike.

[andyjboy]

I don't know the answer but I suspect that it is unlikely that you would get an entry at Classic Le Mans with your car.

The event is over-subscribed & the organisers can 'pick & choose' which cars to grant entry to.

I am fairly certain that an 'ordinary' 911 entry request from an 'ordinary' owner/driver would not meet with success - the rarer the car (within those cars that are eligible) - especially if it is a make/model not already on the entry list - the higher the likelihood will be of gaining an entry.

[preS]

I don't know the answer but I suspect that it is unlikely that you would get an entry at Classic Le Mans with your car.

The event is over-subscribed & the organisers can 'pick & choose' which cars to grant entry to.

I am fairly certain that an 'ordinary' 911 entry request from an 'ordinary' owner/driver would not meet with success - the rarer the car (within those cars that are eligible) - especially if it is a make/model not already on the entry list - the higher the likelihood will be of gaining an entry.

+1 for the historic LeMans

It's over over subscribed.

Richard

[gruen911]

+1 for the historic LeMans

It's over over subscribed.

Richard

That sucks. They should make the selection based upon time trials...

[John Sinclair]

Thanks so far for all the input.

Classic Le Mans would be great of course, but I also mean events like the Silverstone Classic, Tour de France and the Oldtimer Grand Prix at the Nurburgring. Building a ST from the 911 T is one part of it, but enjoying the car is the best part of it.

Last year I was at the Classic Le Mans and was amazed that even tiny cars like the Saab 92 V2 can join in the fun. Naturally there were many 911s and for sure they will try to get cars with Le Mans history there. Then again they might also want drivers there who entertain the paying public. At the 2008 event there was a Belgian ex-touring car racer who did exactly this and really gave the audience somethig to cheer for. He was sliding his cars through the corners instead of some other entrants who were just 'touring' their classic car around the circuit. In the end the organisers of these events have to compete as well with each other (2008 Classic Le Mans clashed with the Goodwood Festival of Speed) and in the long run no one wants to pay to watch a parade at Le Mans. I for sure want to see the cars being driven in anger like they were back in the day they were new. For sure that is what I intend to do. Cruising in my mind is not something that should be done in events like these.

Anyway, main issue is to hopefully build a car that is eligable for these events and based on that make the right choices (engine, brakes, etcetera).

John

[911T1971]

John,
doesn't usually an eligible car for today's "Le Mans Classic" also have been eligible to race in its authentic FIA class back when the original race "24 heures du Mans" was of actual time, being a Bentley of the late 1920'ies or an 917 of the 1970'ies ?

I know this is neither the case for Goodwood, Tour de France or Nurburgring, each have differents approaches and restrictions.